Likeliest Democratic Nominee in 2020?

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  1. Stallion

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    Kanye West

    Lets face it, he’s probably as qualified as the current presidential incumbent - very successful in his field, has diversified a few times, has reportedly flirted with financial problems, has delusions of grandeur, can’t handle criticism, and has a social media addiction.
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    Maybe Kamala Harris. I think she'll run, has a shot at winning the primary if she gets a good debate coach - Loretta Sanchez -- LORETTA SANCHEZ -- wiped the floor with her in the Senate debate. If not, then she'll definitely run in 2024. And I'm not convinced Warren will run.

    I think there's a decent chance Clinton runs again, health permitting. If so, everyone bows out of the way again. She did win the popular vote, and flipping 100k votes in key states should be pretty easy if she just visits them once in a while.

    If not, I'd say in order of decreasing likelihood of the ones listed so far: Warren, Harris, Booker, Duckworth, Jerry Brown, Kanye West.
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    And he'll let you finish, but he's got something to say first.
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  4. Dayton Kitchens

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    The parties no longer renominate losers.

    And what makes you think that Hillary Clinton just showing up is going to make people more likely to vote for her.?
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    Urrrgghhhh....

    Not Clinton again. They need to learn their lesson.
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    Agreed on both. Look for someone young, charismatic and not loony tunes living in liberal la la land. Cory Booker perhaps?
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    Why discount Biden?
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    Not Booker.
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    Too old.
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    Too much of a joke. But, yes, please run Biden.
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    side question...
    all those would be bernie folks from the primaries who were disqualified at the DNC... they're solid to vote next time, yes?

    I suspect that the dems will take a stronger look at running an idealist rather than an establishment candidate in 2020 as they'll find themselves with a much larger pool of 28-35 year olds in their registries than ever.
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    They should probably heed Rahm Emanuel and go with a hot head firebrand that can go head to head with Trump. Needs to be a blue collar type to rally the lower middle class. Also, someone who understands how the electoral college works.
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    I'm not sure the whole "blue collar voter" thing is as important as people are making it out to be. To put it bluntly, most of them are dead-enders. They keep longing for the days when you went straight from high school to punching a clock for 35 years and then retired with a fat pension. Trump was able to rally them by making a lot of false promises, but despite all that Clinton still would have won if she had been able to appeal to more young voters who either went for Jill Stein or sat out the election.
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    Warren certainly wants to be the nominee but she is no Bernie.
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    Which state did you imagine Stein lost for Hillary? To my knowledge there isn't one. To win a dem needs to win back Florida and the rust belt upper Midwest.
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    In Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania the margin of Trump's victory was less than the number of Stein votes.
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    I'd vote for her if she gave us all free cars. :yes:
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    Gabbard has an impressive background for someone so young.

    Too bad she isn't a conservative Republican.
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    I don't care about whether she has a D or an R beside her name, I care about her policies.
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    I don't like the policies she supports. Several of them anyway.
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    I'd be careful. Someone from Hawaii could be subject to birther allegations. :bergman:
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    actually if you give EVERY Stein vote to Clinton she wins all three of WI, PA, and MI and thus the presidency

    (debates about whether it's fair to give Clinton EVERY Stein vote aside)
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    I've done this list for y'all before but once more:

    Here's the current pool of possibilities-

    Dem Governors...
    John Hickenlooper (CO) - gets some chatter, has an awkward name
    Steve Bullock (MT) - Young, good looking, probably fairly moderate to get elected in Montana, if they are in the mood to steer towards a moderate so as to make the election all about how insane Trump is
    Andrew Cuomo (NY) - think he has ambition for it, has staked out a lot of positions popular within the party
    Jay Inslee (WA) - successful gov of a successful state, trends a little old but I'll defer to @Ancalagon to discuss his merits


    Senators...
    Kamala Harris (CA) - rising star, MIGHT be too soon but Obama...
    Michael Bennet (CO) - just based on age, state, appearance, etc, he profiles, no idea of his campaign charisma or policies
    Chris Murphy (CT) - has assumed a high profile position as a Trump opponent, might be angling for it
    Tammy Duckworth (IL) - maybe too soon? Has a compelling angle though
    Elizabeth Warren (MA) - gets a pass on the age because she's a rock star in the party right now, appeals to the Sanders crowd
    Amy Klobaucher (MN) - could probably stir interest if she tried it, depending on what other women were running
    Al Franken (MN) - could see him as a VP, particularly if the nominee were a centerist
    Jon Tester (MT) - Dem elected in a red state, see Bullock above
    Corey Booker (NJ) - the popular pick to be the rising star of the party, sometimes goes soft though
    Martin Heinrich (NM) - right out of central casting, age and looks wise - but does he have any charisma?
    Kristen Gillenbrand (NY) - only one to cast every vote so far against Trump, brings a lot to the table as a potential younger version of Warren's best traits, but not as outspoken so far.
    Sherrod Brown (OH) - would stake out the hard left wing position which would tend to appeal to Bernie Bros, but said to be uncharismatic
    Jeff Merkley (OR) - has the sort of profile you can't completely rule out
    Bob Casey (PA) - do you get extra points for having rid us of Santorum?
    Mark Warner (VA) - long discussed as a potential national candidate
    Maria Cantwell (WA) - profiles well in several ways
    Tammy Baldwin (WI) - another one from the "proudly liberal" wing - openly lesbian so a bold choice.

    Of those, I think all four governors will consider it with Cuomo definitely in, and among senators, my guess is Warren won't run but will anoint a surrogate and tell her supporters and Bernie will probably back the same person, and that could be Gillenbrand, Baldwin, or Klobacher. Besides that one, Booker is bound to try, Murphy seems to be angling for it,and Warner might be the "establishment" (closest to the old school crowd) candidate. Kind of the Jeb Bush of the cycle.

    Then you's surely have a Representative or two try, maybe an "outsider" (but I think Trump has kind of burned that bridge for a while) and maybe some "former something" like a past governor that I'm not thinking of. The "rising stars" from the Obama admin need to get elected governor somewhere or something and build up some credibility.

    Also, between now and then the Party will need to decide if they want to go with a centrist and let Trump suffer by contrast or if they want to push their chips in on a "proudly liberal" type and hope Trump is so toxic they can get away with it.