No Equal Pay No Work

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  1. T.R

    T.R Don't Care

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  2. The Flashlight

    The Flashlight Contributes nothing worthwhile Cunt Git

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    :shrug:

    Teh Baba will be deeply offended, Grace Park has been wronged. How will she get to have a lipstick lesbian love scene with Tricia Helfer now? :ua:

    We'll see if playing the race card will change the producers' minds.

    Most shocking thing from the article? Hawaii Five O has been on since 2010 and has gone for 168 episodes, and I've never watched a single one.

    Park is lucky to have a career post-Enterprise.
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    The Flashlight Contributes nothing worthwhile Cunt Git

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    Hillary was a vagina victim in more ways than one! :shock: She was not only a victim of the accident of her birth that cursed her with a vagina (second-class citizen status), but she was victimized by other vaginas who exercised independent thought and didn't support her candidacy. These other silly vaginas sided with Bernie because that's where all the cute Bernie Bros were hanging out, remember? :)
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    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    ^Hillary was unbalanced, yet unstable Maxine Waters makes Hillary sound almost rational, it's all relative. But of course Sarah Palin deserves leftie hate, she had it coming. But leftie cunts are "women" and merit respect.

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    #1 Shocked the show is still on. Really shows that I don't watch any network TV. :lol:

    #2 If they were main characters than yeah they should be getting the same. Why the hell did they wait this long though to quit? I feel there is a piece missing from the whole story.
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  6. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    She was in BSG, not Enterprise.
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    Rimjob Bob Classy Fellow

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    I would think that the Asian stars were more popular, and therefore deserved more money.
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  8. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Wrong Park, you racist.

    Being a huge fan of the original, I couldn't stand this ridiculous remake, so I haven't watched past the first few eps.
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    I've never watched the show, but i know the Asian stars are highly recognizable actors from Lost and BSG. I don't recognize the white actors at all. I'm kind of surprised the Asians weren't making more to begin with. :shrug:
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  10. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    I was a little weirded out by them casting the hot Korean Cylon chick in the part of the fat Hawaiian male junior detective.
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    The Flashlight Contributes nothing worthwhile Cunt Git

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    Really? Then who was Hoshi?
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    Linda Park
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    Ah, Linda Park. I see.

    Meh. :shrug:
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    The Flashlight Contributes nothing worthwhile Cunt Git

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    You refuse to support a show with two ethnic minority actors in leading roles, oppressing them with your remote control white privilege, yet I'm the racist? :jayzus:

    Have you gotten a new white fluffy Aryan Nation dog yet? :rolleyes:

    :baba:
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    If they're main characters (I don't watch the show, so I've no idea) then they should all get the same pay. On the opposite end of this, some of the big names on The Big Bang Theory recently threatened to quit unless their co-stars got the same pay as they did. IIRC, they actually took a cut so that their colleagues could get a raise and they'd all be on the same level.
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    Kam Fong's Chin Ho "I wish I were as slim as these leads..." :D
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    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    The solution might be hiring a more aggressive agent as that seems to be where the rubber meats the road wrt salary negotiations for actors.
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    I'm absolutely flabbergasted by this.

    Hawaii Five-O is still on?!?!?











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  19. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    In all seriousness, this happens to Asian actors and other minorities a lot more than you'd think.

    I'm FB friends with someone who works at Bad Robot who says they've had a hell of a time getting certain projects off the ground because the studio insists on making the lead characters white males. And agents have told their Asian clients to take roles for shit pay and fight it later. Meanwhile, yellowface continues to happen unabated, probably because Asians are the only minority group who are above protesting and destroying things in frustration to bring attention to shit like this. :borg:
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  20. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    So you could say the industry is slanted towards whites?
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  21. enlisted person

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    Were being the key word there.
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  22. Rimjob Bob

    Rimjob Bob Classy Fellow

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    There was recent row over the X-files leads, when David Duchovny was offered twice as much as Gillian Anderson for the new series. This seemed somewhat appropriate to me since Duchovny, since the original series, has become by far the more established actor, with seven seasons of Californication et al. But the Internet was howling about sexism.

    In this case maybe the Internet has a point.
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    In the producers' estimation, Kim and Park simply weren't worth the extra money. Maybe they're right, maybe they're wrong. Let's see if Kim and Park get better gigs on other shows, or if Hawaii Five-O's ratings decline.
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Slight correction. The studio thought they could get away with paying them less, not necessarily that they were worth less.

    Not the same.

    How aware are you of Joseph Stiglitz's work on Asymmetric Information?
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  25. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    Every player in the market tries to get the most for what he sells, and pay the least for what he buys. That's common sense. :shrug:

    The actors thought they were worth more, the studio thought they were worth less...we'll see which (if either) is right. If Kim and/or Park get lead roles in new series for more money, we'll know they were correct. If the ratings on Hawaii Five-O don't decline, we'll know the producers were right.
    I've read a little on it. No doubt the actors involved have agents who seek out and entertain other offers, and thus have a sense of their own market value. If so, the asymmetry may be in their favor.

    We won't know who was right (again, if either) until we see how it plays out.
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  26. Dayton Kitchens

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    I've seen a few episodes and I think this is just an effort at negotiating for a better salary.

    note that "The Big Bang Theory" just a couple of years ago threatened to write out no less than five major characters (two of which have been there from the beginning) if they insisted on the same million dollar an episode salaries of Cuco, Galecki, and Parsons.
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    Those two were the biggest names in the entire cast, btw.

    It's a bad look to have a show set in Honolulu that features absolutely no Asian or Islander characters and that IIRC the rest of the characters there are transplants considering the attitude towards the haoles in Hawaii these days.

    That, and CBS in particular is notoriously bad in the diversity department.
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  28. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Scott Caan is of Oceans Eleven fame, that could be something to do with it.
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    Maybe they can get some real Hawaiians on the show, instead of Koreans.

    I vote Jason Momoa.
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    I love it when Hollywood pretends to promote equality around award seasons. What an empty gesture. Hollywood will always be the the first industry to pay lip-service and the last industry to observe gender and racial equality. After all, they have tickets to sell. You'll never see an Aboriginal James Bond.

    It must be the handiwork of all those notoriously shrewd, evil "white people" who run Hollywood.
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