Pedophile rapes 9 year old girls; says he is "trans-aged".

How is any thing I posted "bashing"? If someone thinks factual reality is bashing them then they have much bigger problems.

I know it is satire but attack helicopter or not that man is a sharp dresser. I want a tie like that.

True, but only if you completely ignore all of medical science, the actual doctors working with trans people, the years of psychological research that back up their claims, biologists and geneticists who say that sex and gender are really a spectrum, and decades of research. If you pretend that doesn’t exist and refuse to refute any of it, you could potentially have a weak point.

Seems trans-helicopterism has some supporters!
Okay one supporter anyway. BTW it would be so cool if she shaves her cootch into a landing strip!
Also I'd fly an approach into her "inverted Y" configuration any day.

Well... That is original and rather creative.

Big Man Tyrone is a national treasure.

Who else but he could have enriched the English language with phrases like "foolish guac bowl merchant" during the Republican Primaries?

It is good to know that at least one person isn't bigoted against the marginalized trans-attack-helicopter community.

You need to get to the next step and recognize Big Man Tyrone's Trans-Attack-Helicopterism lest you be accused of being a Heliphobe.

Except of course that it's a completely false analogy which can be debunked so simply even you could understand it - if you actually WANTED to follow the facts and not wrap yourself in the warm blanket of your ignorance.

because the entire (relevant) scientific community, apart from a half dozen religiously motivated cranks, recognize it is a legitimate scientifically and medically valid biological condition?

when that fellow gets all his fuel from petroleum products, spends his down time standing motionless in a hanger, and keeps a mouthful of bullets in preperation to spit them at his enemies, I'll believe he identifies as a helicoptor.

Also, helicopters do not speak and do not wear natty attire.

Thus, he's full of shit.

I put my motherfucking godddamm LIFE ON THE LINE every damn day I walk out the door presenting myself as a woman. Big Tyrone can kiss my hairless ass all the fucking day and then suck my asshole.

I'd explain it to you, but you don't really want to know. There are none so blind as those who passionately prefer not to see.

We can sit down and talk about the transgender issue like rational adults. But, the "cause" loses me at some nebulous point. I'm just going to roll my eyes at the whole "*-kin" thing as I understand it. There's a group of 20-somethings running around saying things like they're a "transaged wolfkin" or some other utter nonsense. No, you're not a wise 300 year old wolf in an overweight 22-year old's body. You're a stupid kid who, hopefully, will grow out of this.

That said, one of my oldest and dearest friends recently came out and changed his gender on Facebook. He now identifies as a Constitution Class Heavy Cruiser. Like a good friend, I'm doing my best to support him during this time.

Yeah, I think that’s just some weird Tumblr shit. I doubt anyone actually continues that for very long.

Ok, if factual reality is a "false analogy" then we do post op trans people have almost the same suicide rates as pre-op trans people? Why do such a large portion try to go back and forth between genders? Why does such a high rate of young people claiming to be trans grow out of it and chanhe their minds? While we are at it why did you advocate mutilating children, most of whom really will grow out of it, none of whom are above the age of consent where they can make responsible choices for themselves, babbling nonsense about "unwanted puberties? To me that is an abuse of a child, utterly disgusting, and unforgivable especially given the high rates of changing their (not legally competent) minds?

I get that all of these facts fo not sit well with your opinions yet they are never the less facts even if you do not like them. I am equally sure you will claim the problem is everyone else, displacing anger and trying to evade self responsibility is a frequent way out for people who are unable or unwilling to self examine, but it seems likely to me the reason so many mentally ill people attenpt suicide is because of their own mental illness. Not because of everyone else.

Now let us hear the deflection about how bring up uncomfortable truthes you wish to avoid is some how "bigotry" because it does not fit your own selfish desires. They are not. They are just truthes you have difficulty explaining away.

Why don’t you post proof of these “facts”?

Science has proven that we are all born phenotypically female, and hormonal signals from the Y chromosome alter this to a male phenotype. As such, it is not scientifically impossible - in fact, we have evidence - that some do not produce these hormones sufficiently to produce a male phenotype. Given this, we could choose to supply male hormones, but that's tampering on the same scale as providing female hormones. We make the CHOICE based on what the person themselves wants, because they're a person and scientists don't presume to play God, unlike his so-called fucking servants.

I read an article about how in the womb, male fetuses start female but get doses of testosterone at two stages. One causes the brain to develop a certain way and the other causes it to develop male sex organs. It speculated that trans people just get one or the other, or just not enough to cause any development.

Wrong, SJW. People choose to be persecuted and mocked for their choice of being transsexual. These "people" are just fantasizing about becoming the opposite sex for their own amusement. Fantasize all you want, but don't expect our rigid and immutable culture to conform!

Shit! The jig is up!

I can make all this really simple for you and any other fair minded person.

During pre-natal development, there is a natural process, that happens with every child, in which the infant is "sexed". Each starts as latently "female" and (usually) when a Y chromosome is present then there are hormone processes which masculinize the genital characteristics, and the brain, at two separate times during pregnancy. Sometimes, in around 1% of cases, this process goes awry and atypical outcomes result But the takeaway here is that there IS a natural process which affects the sex/gender traits of every one of us.

By contrast, all the other analogies that people try to shoehorn in as a comparison (things that people claim to "feel like") cannot be traced back to any such developmental process.
Thee's no point in pregnancy at which one is differentiated according to race
no point in which the brain is assigned the age of nine (or whatever) permanently - no such thing as an identified age
there's no point in development which, if things go a bit sideways, you might be born a kitten
or an alien
or Elvis
or a battleship.

EVERY.
ANALOGY.
FAILS.
Because none of those "identities" can be connected to a known, identified and understood developmental process.

I have a standard answer for that. When someone says "I identify as a cat" then I have questions:
Do you go naked at all time?
Do you constantly lick yourself?
Do you use litter or shit in the yard?
Do you ever speak?
How is it you are using an electronic device?

No, motherfucker, you do not in point of fact live as a cat, get off my fucking lawn.

I have explained the answer to all these "concerns" to you dumb/bigoted motherfuckers 3 dozen times already and every time it comes up you asked the same ill-informed questions as if you've never heard the answers.

So question one - your question is bullshit because it contains a lie. Pre-transition suicide attempts (reported by survivors) runs about 40% - higher of course if you include those unknown number who succeeded.
Rates among those post-transition are roughly twice the rate of the general population (IIRC, about 4% as opposed to about 2%)

This elevated rate is more than easily accounted for by the various oppressive blowback actions that trans people have to endure in very many cases (loss of job/career, loss of spouse/children/family, social shunning, loss of health care, etc)

Laying aside the professed "gender fluid" what you postulate virtually doesn't exist. I very small percentage "detransition" in the face of negative reactions (see above) like the friend I described in a previous post. A small minority of that cohort misdiagnosed themselves and eventually discerned (usually with therapy) that they had a different sort of condition altogether (see Walt Heyer) and the great proportion of those who did transition and de-transition originally transitioned in the previous century when the professional safety net was much more uncertain. (Heyer again).

As a proportion - your parameter - this number altogether is not "large" in any sense, something more like 2-3%

Another false claim. This particular myth is based almost entirely on a "study " conducted by Dr. Kenneth Zucker. In the study, using the DSMIV definition of GID (which only required gender non-conforming behavior, NOT a profession to BE or want to be the opposite sex) the study cohort was made up predominantly of gender-non-conforming kids with a noticeable minority of kids who actually claimed to be (or want to be) the other sex. In other words, most of the kids were never trans - nor claimed to be - in the first place.
So naturally, most of them did not grow up to be trans. There is no existing study which demonstrates that kids who profess to be trans (as in transsexual, a person with a penis who says "I'm a girl" or vice versa) desist in any recordable numbers. In fact, Dr Zucker himself is on record saying that if a child presists in that claim until puberty, that child will never desist.

Children do not receive surgical correction until they reach the age of medical majority in their locale, typically 18 though there have been a handful of cases between 16-18. I know of no case in the U.S. younger than 16.

Again I refer you to Dr. Zucker, hardly someone on my side, regarding desistance beyond puberty.

you're repeating yourself

To you it's nonsense. To the trans women who get murdered because hateful assholes like yourself spotted an Adam's Apple or thought her hands were too big or her voice to deep, it's fucking important.
Let me tell you, If I should be so fortunate enough to ever afford it, I'll have to pay thousands of dollars and endure hundreds of hours of significant pain to simply get the hair off my face. That's just one item. Literally every aspect of my body which testosterone gave me at 12 or 13 is painful to me in ways your narrow little mind can't even slightly conceive of. For trans men expensive and painful surgery at some point in life to remove breasts and ovaries is a non-negotible necessity. These too are the gift of puberty.

Insisting a trans kid go through puberty uninterrupted is, to us, the act of mutilation, often cursing us with traits we can never rid ourselves of (I know a transwoman near hear who's 6'6" and built like a linebacker (frame wise). I am a little surprised every day i speak to her and she hasn't yet killed herself.
The ask is to DELAY the effects of puberty to be absolutely certain the child is correct. That's not mutilation or permenant, it's CAUTION.

And fuckwads like you can't wrap you pissy little hateful brains around that.

You're repeating yourself - already asserted and debunked.

You've yet to cite an actual fact and your comments a dripping in "opinion"

Bullshit.

In the same way that you can't self examine the fact that you are a close minded self-satisfied arrogant bigot who presumes to lecture on a subject you clearly know fuck-all about and can only have been getting your "facts" from religiously-motivated psedo-science pimps?

it's a valid point. For those who say there's no distinction between gender identity and genital sex I pose a question:

How does a true intersex person without a clearly binary genital construction know whether they are male or female?

Wait, Kim Khardashian isn't a Hobbit?

South Park lied to me!

Gay fish, yo!