Unmasking Antifa Act introduced in Congress, carries potential 15 year prison sentence

Yes. While a very rare someone may have a legitimate need for wearing a mask, the main reason for protesters to do so is to avoid repercussions from criminal behavior. Violence has no legitimate part of protest.

Actually, they are making the crime the use of the mask. So no, it's not like a thought crime, except maybe, "I think I better wear a mask so I don't get caught."

Nothing makes me more sure about my politics than seeing the total derangement of a liberal faced with losing his constitutional right to injure people and destroy property.

How amusing to hear you wack-jobs claim the high ground between your tantrums.

Given dinner's rep i pretty much assume any posting he makes about the left comes from a right wing bubble reinforcement site and would be at best twisted all out of proportion by the refraction of their propaganda machine.

But thank you anyway for the effort of showing us yet again water is wet.

You're allowed to cover your face while protesting peacefully. But then that wouldn't be an Antifa protest, would it?

Considering the definition the right might want to think about their idea. It is not like a pointy white hood could be considered a mask or anything.

Beware I am pretty sure all that food coloring you are downing with your kool aid might stain your Lilly white skin. Just say in.

Watch as they work to redefine what is and isn't a protest. What is and isn't intimidation. What is and isn't moral by what is and isn't legal.
A mask is a gun is a mask, and it will be, until a mask needs to be worse. It won't take long.

Rightforge has a problem with laws based on intent. This law isn't about intent.

What thread are you reading?

What part of anyone in a mask, doesn't matter their politics, at a protest should go to jail are you not understanding? What part of the mask laws were created in large part to fight the klan in the first place?

Of course, the white hood is a mask you fucking cock-gurgling bitch. Yes, any asshole wearing one should be arrested for wearing a mask. It's only been said multiple times in this thread.

No one on the right is going to want to rethink the idea since no one on the right has a problem with Nazis/Klan assholes being arrested if they wear a mask.

...cognitive dissonance, sophistry, and mirror-kissing level vanity.

I’m British. This law doesn’t impact me. I also don’t support political violence by any means. In short, you haven’t got a clue what you’re on about.

Being against laws that target specific ideologies, which are always about shutting down political discourse, doesn’t mean a person is in favour of politically motivated violence.

Plus, I’ll ask you what I asked the others, where is the Anti-Nazi law for balance to stop Neo Nazis driving cars into people and killing them?

The law was badly titled.

That's all you've got.

That you keep harping on the specific ideologies angle just shows you're a fucking political hack no different from anyone else on this board in that you completely ignore the text of the law because it doesn't support your argument. You think you're superior when in reality you're a pig in the shit with the rest of us. You oinky bitch.

The law, if it had passed and been signed into law, could be used against anyone. Antifa, Nazi/Klan, Greenpeace, or any other group wearing a mask.

It's called criminal law. The dirtbag was charged with murder. That's your fucking balance.

Notice how he was arrested and is currently sitting in jail waiting for trial and upon conviction a long prison sentence? Notice how no other Nazi shithead has run someone over and killed them? Why? Because they don't fucking want to go to prison.

Badly titled? Oh do fuck off. It doesn't need to be politically titled at all. As for the second part of your post, this was the whole fucking point I was making to you last night you bloody idiot.

The laws against violence are already there. The second you design a law to target people of a specific ideology you are turning that law from being a general law against violence into one that is politically motivated and targeted at a specific demographic. That's the whole point of asking where the the Nazi law is. If you don't need a Nazi law because the laws are already there to prevent and prosecute violence, then why do you need an additional law specifically targeting a group based on ideology?

You're utterly all over the place on this. No basic logic or consistency and you're defending the indefensible because your favourite alt-right commentators are telling you that ideology targeting laws are ok if you aren't the target. In other words, you're more pretend to shit out some absolutely nonsense if your partisan tribe requires it than to actually think about what this sort of law would represent.

How many times does it have to be said that the law can be used against anyone? Its title is retarded but the text of the law itself makes no mention of Antifa. The law could just as easily put a Nazi bastard in jail.

Also as I've said up thread, but you're too fucking busy pretending to be morally superior to have noticed, that I'm not for this law. I am for the states deciding if they want this type of law or not. Some states already have it. Some do not. It's fine with me. As long as it's not a federal law. I have no problem with putting anyone wearing a mask in jail if during a protest they are wearing the said mask and refuse to remove it if a state has a law against masks at protests. Anyone. I don't care what their politics are. It could be your mother protesting your existence while wearing a mask to hide the shame on her face in birthing you into this world and I'd be all for putting her in jail. Is it really that hard for you to comprehend? You're so busy acting like you're better than others and acting all outraged that you can't even be bothered to read.

But please keep oinking away you magnificent morally superior pig.

A hate crime is a crime committed that is typically the same as another type except it is also done to threaten, intimidate or terrorize a group. Seems fairly analogous to me.

The law does not target an ideology. It is badly titled because it appears to target an ideology. What it targets is wearing a mask while rioting. The only ideology about it is the dirty little secret that despite leftist fantasies about Nazis and fascists, the only people in America who are actually rioting with their faces covered are Antifa. That's right, the only pigs who actually wallow in the shit of rioting in America are on the left, where they have held a de facto monopoly for over 50 years. Rioting in America implies the political left, but that association is entirely the left's doing. I guess they just named the bill like they did because they didn't think anyone would actually be stupid enough to defend Antifa.

Welcome to political season. This bill is not intended to pass. Its sole reason for being is to appear in political ads this fall, where Democrat incumbents will be forced to explain why they sided with masked rioters and thugs over their innocent victims.

What an inconvenient time to be faced with the reality that your side has all the criminals. It makes law and order seem partisan, huh? Well, I guess someone decided to put that question to a vote.

“My side”?

I am neither American nor predominantly left wing you illiterate fool - and please, spare me this “badly worded” absolute crap.

No, that's not what a hate crime is. A hate crime is a special circumstance that occurs when a crime is motivated by hate. It creates different classes of victims, based on a jury divining the offender's motives.

This law creates a separate crime based on the actions of a person wearing a mask. Considering that the mask may embolden people to break the law, it treats donning the mask like premeditation for violence. It's only illegal if you actually behave violently.

Having the jury decide whether you were wearing a mask at the time of your offense is a bit more black and white than asking them to guess if you're homophobic.

Plus it doesn't discriminate against the victim when you tell him their attacker is getting out of prison fifteen years earlier because he wasn't wearing a mask.

I never understood how liberals can insult victims by telling them, "Sorry about your mugging. If only you'd been gay we'd have taken it more seriously."

Sure, being a Brit makes you nonpartisan and apolitical. We all get it, lib.

This bill is sheer political genius on the part of the Republicans.

For one thing, no conservative actually wants federal laws against wearing masks. This is simply not a federal matter.

But it's a great wedge. I mean, who besides criminals opposes a law against committing crimes while wearing a mask???

Liberals who don't realize that Antifa is actually a bunch of thugs will be forced to face that reality.

And Democrats don't dare pass a bill that seems to target their base. They have to choose between pissing off Antifa supporters now, or explaining to independents in the fall why they protected Antifa's lawlessness.

That blue wave is looking redder every day.

Only when compared to having them here illegally. Our first choice is uncaged Central American kids -- in Central America.

Anything other than that results from willfully breaking US law.

Antifa = "peaceably assemble"?

I don't care who you are, that's funny right there.

These guys frequently wear body armour to demos as well.

To be prepared for violence is not the same as initiating violence.

All this thread has shown me, is boy, fascist bullies really hate being stood up to.

They don’t like it when you question their authority. It makes them antsy when their lessers address them as if they were equals.

'member when the NRA was all over gun control, because of the Black Panthers?

Fun times!

Interesting that you'll justify not only cops, but also a white nationalist organization "preparing" for violence. Those aren't exactly sensible marching boots on their feet...
Even more interesting that you'd presume criminality on the part of others who have historical reasons to be "intimidated" by these guys meeting up and flying colours.