shitty old racist removed from money

But a white guy’s face was taken off a single dollar. That’s a huge loss for white men with fragile egos.

The funny thing is @The Flashlight has nothing to be egotistical about, this guy is as beta as it gets

He can’t even figure out how to use his whiteness to gain advantages in life

He’s such a lost cause and bitter dispointment to white people everywhere

He has to live vicariously through others. That’s why the failures of other white men bothers him so much. He thinks he’s on the same team and not just someone who shares a few traits purely through the random chance of his particular birth.

So it must be killing him that she was a successful, self made entrepreneur.

I'd suggest going forward that you should read things you are quoting...it helps you make your case more effectively.

That quote says precisely the opposite of what you claim.

So, MethTurkey's original claim was that the dude on the $10 bill was a "shitty old racist."

So far, he's failed to offer anything to back that assertion up.

Was John A. Macdonald, Canada’s first prime minister, in fact a shitty old racist?

Yes he did.

So, the evidence that he was a "shitty old racist" is that in 1867 he was instrumental in creating a Canadian boarding school program for aboriginals.



The same was done in America, and yes definitely part of the purpose was to assimilate Indians into the White culture. No argument there.

The more interesting question is whether those schools and other assimilation efforts were necessary at the time in order to save Indians and give them the tools to be able to survive in the dominant European society, long-term. But I doubt anyone here is interested in those kinds of questions.

This is simply part of the same silly trend that's been going on for a few years where SJW's, in order score "woke" points and virtue-signal, think that every acknowledgement of people who lived in past eras and who adhered to the cultural norms of their time has to be scrubbed from history and forgotten.

Oh teh noes! This Founding Father used to own slaves back in 1780! eeeeeeekk! His name must never be mentioned in public again and I'll be traumatized if I ever see a portrait of him in a textbook!!!!

Every successful woman, person of color, LGBTQ person or non-Christian is a personal attack on him.

Yes, erasing the history and heritages of other cultures was truly wonderful. SJWs and other race traitors just aren’t able to see how it was needed to benefit the glorious white race.

You dumb cunt.

So telling someone everything about their culture and identity is inherently wrong and creating an institution to reeducate them to serve your own society isn't racist?

"boarding schools" is a bit of a misnomer... with an estimated 60% student mortality rate (never mind the stated purpose of "removing the indian from the indian"-i.e.: cultural erasure) these were slaughter houses.

History would suggest that your alternate motivation failed spectacularly, serving only to ghettoize first nations.

Civil rights are a silly trend? Yeah, no need to take you seriously here. Nobody is being erased from history. Quite the contrary, the experiences of native peoples since colonization are being added to our historic narrative AND we are examining the existing narrative without the rosy tinted goggles.

Keep on keeping on with the dog whistle buzzwords though...

Seriously... where do you get this meth thing from?

The same place he got the "pancreatic cancer" thing with me. He's so full of shit he's got it coming out of his fingertips when he types.

From his posts, it's probably just Sterno. I think actual meth addicts and dealers probably avoid THAT much crazy.

Based on other threads I don’t think he even reads other posts all the way through. He just invents snowman arguments based on what he thinks others have said.

I've found that the scale from Brave New World is more versatile when contemplating social hierarchy.

Most flashlights take D cells... this one seems to have them.

Or this:

When people say "beta", they typically mean "omega", whereas the commonplace concept of "alpha" doesn't even remotely resemble the scientific reality.

That isn't what is said at all though....

I'm very glad Monopoly is finally updating its currency.

0/10, quit trying so hard to be edgy

Well yeah. That was the widely held opinion of the time and in line with official government policy. A position held on to long before and long after Macdonalds time. It wasn't until the mid twentieth century when opinions started to shift on what the governments relationship with the various first nations groups should be.

It's easy to say that the racist policies should have been different. But when the dominating issue throughout most of Canada's history is the conflict between Protestant and Catholics. For them to be to different from one another leaves very little room for native influence on Canadian society.

Honestly if we're going to try and frame the past through the lens of the present we're only going to find monsters.

These are just pointless semantics. Sure we never used grandstanding declarations of independence like our neighbours to the south. It doesn't take away from our distinct history and development. And to pretend Canadian history before the Constitution Act of 1982 is irrelevant is just straight up an argument out of ignorance.

So what? Are you claiming first generation immigrants can't be celebrated as part of our history? You clearly didn't think this through.

You're not a traditional beige chino, white sneaker wearing American style WASP, ergo you hang around disreputables and smoke endless bongs in Flashie's world.

Clearly, I was being sarcastic... pretty sure you knew that though.

The only way to frame the past is through today's lens, at least if we want to learn anything from it. No one seems nostalgic for apartheid and I'm pretty sure they don't have images of Jan Smuts on the money.

Irrelevant is your word... I'm saying the Constitution Act is more relevant to us than the BNA 1867, (especially for about half of the provinces that didn't exist in 1867) thus PET is more worthy of being on a bill based on similar criteria.

I'm not here to defend policies from the 1860's. American Indians being subjected to cultural genocide wasn't a good thing.

However....

The Indians were a defeated people. They were being overwhelmed by the dominant white European invading culture. The Indians couldn't do anything to stop it. Long-term, they were either going to assimilate, or die out. Waging endless bloody war against the white devils wasn't going to win them back their lands.

I'm not saying that boarding schools and other assimilation efforts were "good," but were they necessary to ensure the long-term survival of indigenous peoples?

Possibly they were a means to that end, I'll grant you, but read the quotes from him. He wasn't about valuing them, his sympathies were with devaluing their own heritage "taking the indian out of them" and instilling a sense of deference to European culture.

You could argue that made him a product of his times, who knows, but that to me is no reason to defend him as a cultural icon, giving someone an excuse doesn't qualify them for sainthood.

Link?

Hyperbole.

Restricted to reservations, or total annihilation and extinction?

Neither are good choices, but with one you live, the other you die.

Nobody has said that. What you want to define as "civil rights" issues are, in fact, not.

Historical figures from 200 years ago can no longer be taught or mentioned in schools because centuries ago they may have owned slaves and engaged in other activities that current day SJW's deem objectionable. The ability to learn about history and examine events and people within the context of their time periods has been lost.

you can do your own googling... there's dozens of sources, including the Canadian govrnment.

why'd you split the sentence other than to shade the statement? I know you aren't better than that, but could you at least not be so transparent?\

"restricted to reservations or annihilation"... do you hear/read your own words?

How is this not about civil rights-be it Sir John A's creating the model for south africa to emmulate (again, see history of apartheid via google) or Viola Desmond saying, fuck you, I paid for my seat. You'll have to do better than "is not!!!" (not that I expect you can or will.)

Umm... that isn't happening at all.

although, that does open up one question about racisim, slavery (we did have a tiny bit of it-2000ish maybe-that never fully went away until the 1830s), and commemoration of individuals involved.

one of our big heroes was Chief Joseph Brant, who fought for the Brits during the revolution. Of course, the whole tribe had to leave New York afterwards and settled an area extending from the western end of lake ontario out to what's called "Brantford" at the Grand River.
JB himself had several hundred acres in what is now the city of Burlington where his intent had been a tobacco (IIRC) plantation... and yes, it meant bring along 200 black people that were slaves.
OF course, right around that same time the regional governor (Simcoe-the bad guy in that Turn: Washington's Spies show) had made importation of slaves illegal (but not emancipating those already here), which technically freed them upon arrival. None the less, what was once the north end of town still has a marker for the former village of "Freemen"... I'm guessing they stuck around for the work not only available through Brant, but also in the other industries and farms already in the area.
Now, nobody is clamoring to put his face on the 20... but neither are they contemplating changing the city, county, schools, etc named for him.

@Spaceturkey @Grandtheftcow
This the same Macdonald as memorialized by the Macdonald-Cartier Freeway?