Trump is weak on terrorism.

https://www.politico.eu/article/don...release-isis-fighters-if-eu-doesnt-take-them/

In addition to wanting to abandon our allies in Syria because Putin commands it Trump is now threatening to release 800 ISIS detainees unless European states agree to take them.

is GITMO still open? Asking for a friend....

It is, Obama signed an order to close it but Congress (one of the few bipartisan acts during the time) blocked it because they didn’t want the prisoners transferred to US prisons. The population has been slowly reduced to around 40. Recently Trump signed an order to keep it open indefinitely but they only transferred a single prisoner there since then.

Send Neonazi whitehouse aid steven miller to gitmo. Tradiditional stuff like releasing people to spy to works in law enforcement and intelligence torture doesnht.

Much as it pains me to say this, I can see his reasoning. The US can't be expected to sit on those people indefinitely sans trial, it's down to their own nations and legal systems to make those determinations.

Nah, just dig a deep pit and toss him in. It's cheaper.

The US is generally weak on terrorism in that it supports terrorists where it has goals that align and stopping terrorism in general is far from its priority. US foreign policy goals are geared towards ensuring economic and military dominance, not domestic safety.

Thanks for the idea Henry!

Fly them all to Ireland?

You've heard of Guantanamo Bay, right?

Well, some countries are in a bit of a pickle there. Not all of them had the foresight to pass laws against those exact activity, and those that did still have to meet a particular level of proof to secure a conviction, something that's not easy to obtain from a warzone.

Can't we just send them to a useless state like Arkansas or the dakotas?

Guantanamo Bay is by and large where these people are currently detained as I understand it?

I can see why gaining prosecutions would be an issue, we have domestic legal systems which deal with criminals, we have international conventions which deal with treatment of enemy combatants in conventional state warfare, but these people straddle the line.

So what do we do? Detain them all till the day they die? Kill them? Ultimately there's no obvious way forward that doesn't have a serious drawback but it's hardly the mark of civilised societies to abandon due process altogether. Nor can Guantanamo bay be expected to remain operational indefinitely, not least because whilst open it can continue to be used for future detainees, which may or may not be in the spirit of its' current purpose.

Transferring those detainees to civilian jails would require they come under the criminal justice system and the requirement of said due process, which is extremely problematic when dealing with foreign suspects who have operated and committed crimes on foreign soil.

So, where's Clyde to call the hypocrite Trump-bots that would have lynched anyone for treason after 9/11 for this shit "the elephant faithful"?

Y'know, cuz he was such a centrist like that.

This is the main issue. Western governments don't want to run into a situation where foreign fighters are tried in court and then aren't convicted sparking outrage. The strategy instead seems to be to just let the fighters quietly return but keep a close eye on them to see if they can nail them on anything domestically.

better put them all on the same aircraft - I'm not sure if Ireland's air travel system can handle more than one flight per day.

Are any of them Irish citizens? If so, we should take them as should the respective EU nations take theirs.

Recently that's better than the US has been managing

I though Trump defeated ISIS?

Someone gave him some toy soldiers and he trod on them. The generals have tried explaining it but he got bored and went off to do finger-painting.