where is that "hobo with a shotgun" when you need him?

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by oldfella1962, Oct 6, 2019.

  1. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2004
    Messages:
    81,024
    Location:
    front and center
    Ratings:
    +29,958
    • Sad Sad x 2
  2. Amaris

    Amaris Guest

    Ratings:
    +0
    It's bad enough that the homeless are dehumanized. This is awful. :(
    • Agree Agree x 2
  3. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2004
    Messages:
    81,024
    Location:
    front and center
    Ratings:
    +29,958
    I don't understand why the killer was hell-bent on killing homeless. Well glad they stopped him anyway. Damn what a way to die.
  4. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    Messages:
    14,754
    Ratings:
    +17,863
    Who was it that was obsessed with killing hobos with hammers?
  5. Amaris

    Amaris Guest

    Ratings:
    +0
    The homeless are disposable people. The United States is particularly bad for it, though it can happen anywhere, but people who don't have money, who don't have homes, who don't have the basic necessities, they're seen as losers, as leeches, as cancers on society. Homeless people are spoken in terms of sickness, as if they're a communicable disease that has to be stopped before everyone is infected. There are a myriad number of reasons why someone is homeless, but most often the notion is that they're just lazy drug addicts who aren't worth consideration. It is terrible, and our society is at fault for that part of it.

    I cannot remember for some reason.
    • Love Love x 1
  6. shootER

    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2004
    Messages:
    49,417
    Location:
    The Steam Pipe Trunk Distribution Venue
    Ratings:
    +51,036
    Mainly Volpone, though Sokar picked up on it as well.
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 2
    • Agree Agree x 1
  7. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2004
    Messages:
    51,920
    Location:
    Norphlet, Arkansas
    Ratings:
    +5,412
    ...now there's some guy out there hooking rickshaws to them.
  8. Tuckerfan

    Tuckerfan BMF

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2007
    Messages:
    77,503
    Location:
    Can't tell you, 'cause I'm undercover!
    Ratings:
    +156,329
    There's an unofficial police term "no humans involved." It's applied to marginalized members of society by police and others, and all too frequently, it means that abuses which have been inflicted upon those people (robberies, assaults, murder, etc) won't be investigated because the police don't think that the victim is deserving of such things. In fact, the series of books entitled "The Poor Man's James Bond" suggested that you try out any of the weapons, poisons, etc., that you create based on the book on homeless people, because you won't have to worry about police trying to find who did it.

    This is what the consequences are of listening to the spittle sprayers who scream about people being animals or perverts or anything else that doesn't recognize that even the most heinous of those amongst us are human beings. Right now, at least 18 trans black women have been murdered in the US since the start of this year. Most of whom died in a small geographic region (southeastern US). To me, it sounds like there's a serial killer at work. Someone who probably has to travel those states as part of their job, but the police seem to be treating all of them as separate incidences if they're bothering to investigate them at all.
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  9. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2004
    Messages:
    59,487
    Ratings:
    +48,916
    So where is @Volpone lately? :unsure:
    • popcorn popcorn x 2
  10. Marso

    Marso High speed, low drag.

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2004
    Messages:
    29,417
    Location:
    Idaho
    Ratings:
    +14,151
    How many people die in South Chicago every weekend? Get some fucking perspective.
    • GFY GFY x 2
  11. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    Messages:
    14,754
    Ratings:
    +17,863
    He posted last Friday.
  12. Tuckerfan

    Tuckerfan BMF

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2007
    Messages:
    77,503
    Location:
    Can't tell you, 'cause I'm undercover!
    Ratings:
    +156,329
    Kind of my point. 40 percent of murders went unsolved in the US in 2017. How many of those do you think involved rich white people, and how many of them do you think involved were people who weren't rich or white? :chris:
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
    • popcorn popcorn x 1
  13. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    Messages:
    14,754
    Ratings:
    +17,863
    It also comes down to what sells, media, social media, what gets picked up on. The white girl that went missing in the Bahamas or whatever, that was on international news. But the several girls that weren't white were mentioned as an after thought, barely, on some new sites, I don't recall them being mentioned on any broadcast news.

    Simply put, and even on here it's a joke, people only care if "is/was she hot?" or "was he a good kid/have everything going for him/he had/has a scholarship for this or that sport".

    Several years ago 30 or so seniors trashed their school as a senior prank. They did some $40k worth of damage. On Facebook and a local BBS people were saying that there valedictorian, even though he was involved and was one of the ones that caused the worst damage shouldn't be charged. The reasoning was he's a kid and didn't know better, had a great future, etc.. Yet nothing was said of the other kids involved.
    • Agree Agree x 2
  14. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2018
    Messages:
    10,160
    Ratings:
    +14,537
    Serial killers frequently target homeless people and prostitutes for a number of reasons,

    • they are easy to dehumanise and see as worthless
    • investigations are likely to be less motivated and not pushed by distressed relatives
    • their absence is less likely to be noted/reported due to limited social networks and chaotic lifestyles
    • they are vulnerable due to their physical isolation and exposure late at night
    • they are commonly physically diminished
    • they are more likely to be misinterpreted as victims of more mundane violent crime
    • a killer can easily convince themselves their actions are "noble" in that what they are doing is akin to pest control
    • they are portrayed as being a menace to society and essentially less worthy by the media
    • Winner Winner x 3
  15. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2004
    Messages:
    81,024
    Location:
    front and center
    Ratings:
    +29,958
    many murders go unsolved because witnesses won't cooperate with the police. Google it if you don't believe me - it's a fact, and googling it will have experts explaining why this is better than I can explain it.
    That said killing innocent people like this guy did is mindless, senseless evil full stop.
  16. Volpone

    Volpone Zombie Hunter

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2004
    Messages:
    43,794
    Location:
    Bigfoot country
    Ratings:
    +16,276
    If you read the article, the killer was also a hobo.
  17. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2018
    Messages:
    10,160
    Ratings:
    +14,537
    I didn't, but the point I made was more general about the patterns serial killers tend to show rather than some specific insight into a case I know essentially nothing about.
  18. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2018
    Messages:
    10,160
    Ratings:
    +14,537
    Is it too soon to make jokes about how a tramp fetish makes you hobosexual?
    • popcorn popcorn x 1
    • teh baba teh baba x 1
  19. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2014
    Messages:
    37,678
    Location:
    Beyond the Silver Rainbow
    Ratings:
    +27,158
    only if I can say a sexual interest in william riker's hobbies makes you horny.
    • Happy Happy x 1
  20. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    Messages:
    14,754
    Ratings:
    +17,863
    Yes, yes it is. Do you want this guy after you?

    [​IMG]