Hundreds of young trans people returning to original sex.

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  1. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    My mom made me go to church as a kid, it was my decision to accept Christ and be baptized. She didn't make me adhere to certain practices. Yes, we said grace at my grandma's house at dinner time and she would make us say it on thanksgiving, but that's about it. Would I call it "forcing" religion? Well, I couldn't really say no I'm not going. She wouldn't beat me, I doubt she would punish me, but I just knew I had to go. When I was a teen, I stopped. She didn't like it and we argued over it, but eventually she got over it. I wouldn't consider that being forced. I'm thinking more along the lines of people like maybe Mormons who if you step out of line in any way, you're fucked.
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Do you think indoctrinating children from the earliest age that if they don’t believe as you do they will suffer eternal torture and separation from their family but then saying ‘but you can make your own choice’ actually giving them freedom to choose?
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  3. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Yes, but you hate religion and are an atheist, why should anyone listen to you?
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  4. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Atheists don't rape kids.
    :D
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  5. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Can you rephrase the question, it seems like something is missing?
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    Because unlike some other atheists, he can speak with an English accent.

    Seriously, though, Dicky doesn't like organized religion when it starts dictating how people should live, and not just believers but everyone. Hand power to a religion, and people suffer. Religions do their best work when they're operating as the underdog.
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  7. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Suuuuuuuuure.:rolleyes:
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    What part is throwing you off?
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  9. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I'm sure you can find someone somewhere.
    But you're never gonna get Catholicism numbers out of the atheist community.
    And I'm not a pedo.
    I would think you'd at least listen to me over a pedo.
    If you'll listen to pedos to spite me, your priorities are as fucked as Roy Moore voters.
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  10. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Do you think indoctrinating children from the earliest age that if they don’t believe as you do they will suffer eternal torture and separation from their family but then saying ‘but you can make your own choice’ actually giving them freedom to choose?
    Do I think what? It's a bad thing? What are you asking me I think about it?
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  11. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    It's no different than saying, don't drive your car because you might wreck and die.
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  12. The Flashlight

    The Flashlight Contributes nothing worthwhile Cunt Git

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    Nobody gives a shit what you think about Christians, Catholocism or God.

    You're a pathetic, fat little toad sitting in your parent's basement doodling stick figures and masturbating to anime with the grease from last night's x-large pizza. :yes:
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  13. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Okay, I guess I’ll have to start at the beginning for you.
    Are you familiar with the Christian concepts of heaven and hell?
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  14. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Your chances of getting kiddie-diddled in the Catholic church are way higher than wrecking your car.
    Check the stats sometime, they're chilling.
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  15. The Flashlight

    The Flashlight Contributes nothing worthwhile Cunt Git

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    Don't you have a cock to suck?
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    The Flashlight Contributes nothing worthwhile Cunt Git

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    But not nearly as high as the chances of it happening in your basement.

    How long has it been since you've touched a woman's naked body?

    Other than your mother, that is.
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  17. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Move over, Dave Chappelle, and Louis CK, Flashlight is in town to steal both of your crowns!
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  18. Amaris

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    I'm sure Tuttle will be along any moment to tell him how homophobic he is, so we should let him have some peace until then.
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  19. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    There are always going to be people who make mistakes or expect a miracle cure from something. SRS can help gender dysphoria, but it does not fix the world or make things easier in life. If you expect that you will do it and everything will fall into place you are probably goi9ng to be very disappointed.

    I also noticed the article spoke mainly of FtM trans people, and that most of them had autism. Perhaps it is more related to the autism and that is not going to be helped by exposing yourself to a world of judgmental assholes. It might also be something related to the gender paradigm of society. Going MtF exposes you to societal prejudice and the mistreatment of women. You are pretty much going to face negatives from society, if you pass, that would discourage you from the path and make you ask yourself more seriously if this is for you. If you are doing it the other way things might actually be positive if you pass and eliminate things like PMS. All of a sudden you might gain more respect socially and you gain strength and lose the monthly visitor. This might cause you to ignore any misgivings you have with being male while you really want to be female.

    It could also be a matter of miscommunication over gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria is not just disliking being your gender, though that is what such a negative term comes across as. Women seem to face a lot more negative social and psychological issues with being their gender. This is less a matter of being female, and more a matter of how people treat them (Of course, I am sure many of them would love to get rid of some of the annoying physical issues with having a female reproductive system). Is it a huge stretch some of them would rather be men because of external influence over internal issues of having a better relationship with themselves over being male? Then you face every person like @Dinner trying to tell you those feelings are wrong, so you end up arguing against them rather than looking at yourself because they are your first obstacle.

    Then you have the problem of the preachers, AKA gender psychologists, being your gatekeeper rather than helping you. They are your biggest enemy for getting to your goal, and their judgment is something you need to even start looking at yourself. So the one person who is supposed to be helping you sort things out is actually the person you have to prove yourself too and never make a mistake or else they will stop you cold and they are given power over your progression. So to deal with them you have to brainwash yourself into never having a doubt or else they pull that dream from you rather than actually doing anything useful. I tend not to deal with psychologists very well. Give me a doctor to monitor my body and physical health and take the @Dayton Kitchens wannabe psychologist and get the fuck out of my way.

    It is not terribly amazing some people make the wrong decision when dealing with all of these things. The reality that most people know what they are doing and are happy after doing it does not change the fact people should be allowed to do as they see fit.
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  20. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    :unsure: okay I highlighted that last sentence. I only understood about 1/3 of it so if somebody could put it into "square speak" I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    not a catholic but I would think it's okay to take your kids to mass, just don't let them out of your sight for one second! :nono:
    This applies to any denomination really, to be fair.
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    oh really now? That statement does not seem to have much scientific basis.
  23. Amaris

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    It's a network of polyamorous relationships.
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  24. Dinner

    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    Not only are you a dumb individual but you seem like quite the noisey parker to boot. You are the single biggest single shit stain of a human being I have ever met.
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  25. IndigoTiger

    IndigoTiger Violently Happy

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    I'm assuming you know what trans is.
    Non-binary folks are people who dont align with either one gender identity or another. (Non-bi: not either of the two)

    Polycule is a network of connected non-monogamous people (polyamory network). Think of it like chosen family within a non-monogamous structure.
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  26. Amaris

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    @spot261, this is @Dinner.
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  27. Dinner

    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    John is simply a cancer upon society and the sooner he is simply dragged out into the street and shot the better society will be. Ironic given that that is exactly what John's communist ideology says should be done to other people. There is a certain amount of justice there.
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  28. Amaris

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    Good luck with your discussion, @spot261. Seriously.
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  29. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    :shock: ..........okay, now what are non-binary parents?
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  30. Amaris

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    Non-binary parents are people who don’t adhere to the gender binary, that male and female aren’t as rigidly structured as our culture claims. So traditional roles aren’t something considered necessary.
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