Speaking of Youtubers, here's a video of a guy explaining how the generic holograms in Picard could be improved or replaced with better holograms with more practical uses.
. . . FOR THE SENSES, A FLAVORFUL EXPLOSION OF DELIGHTS THAT WILL CHALLENGE YOUR NEURONS AND ENGULF YOUR SOUL, CULMINATING IN A RICH CHOCOLATEY GOOEY CENTER OF WARMTH SMOTHERED IN AUTHENTIC ARTESIANAL . . .
I have a suspicion that Disco will be returning close to, but not quite, it's home time. thanks to Voyager, we know that time travel is as common as warp travel by the 29th century, no Q needed. Bring them back anywhere during or after the events of Picard and canon isn't violated any worse than memory holing them has been.
I actually like his idea of fully holographic solid 3D interfaces, though it's hard to tell if that isn't already happening: It would look no different as long as nobody "changes the desktop". However, he's way off target when he says that STP isn't doing it his way because they didn't use Star Trek as a design inspiration. On the contrary, the floating see-through interfaces that they use are directly out of the timetravel jump-forward episodes of DS9.
I think the bigger complaint is that they are using generic designs just like they use stock footage. It’s cheap and lazy and there’s no excuse for it.
Eh, the shows have limited time and budgets, I'd rather they spent their money on things we're only going to see in passing. Also, I find it interesting that nobody bitches about the shots TWoK recycled from TMP.
But it isn't true. They are using the designs we saw in TNG-era Trek's future-set episodes, especially DS9's The Visitor, where future Bashir even remarks on them.
I just checked Netflix, nope, they don't show any holographic controls in that episode. Bashir comments on it, but they never actually show it. What is seen in Picard is a decaying fox. If you look up decaying fox, you'll find a stock video which they used. I've posted it before, but I'll post it again. As I've posted before, again, they also used stock footage from shutterstock which can be found here. And the video in post #1776 showed examples of other generic holographic controls in other movies. In conclusion, yes, it it true, all of it. Don't believe me, go back watch the episode of DS9 that you cite.
The video I posted in post #1776 is five minutes and all it does is show an alternative to the holographic controls what we saw in Picard. That's all. If that's too much for your sensitive eyes, then I don't know what to tell you.
That, and we've asked him repeatedly to make his own arguments. Nicely at first, snarkily as he persisted. And his answer through actions has been "NEEEVEEERR!!!! ".
Yes because that looks exactly like this. Either leftists literally see things differently than the rest of the world, which I've suspected for years, or you're purposely being obtuse.
What is your problem with stock footage, and what does it have to do with holographic controls? And yes, thank you, I did rewatch the scene with Bashir, it clearly shows him gesturing on top of the console.
Here's my argument then. Alex Kurtzman is a lazy writer who brags about having big budgets, yet when it really comes down to it. he uses stock footage and generic cgi in the shows that he produces I thought I made it clear the first time my problem with stock footage, it's cheap and lazy. I don't know what episode you're watching, but I don't see Bashir using anything other than the standard LCARS that we see throughout the show. Even so, it's an alternate timeline that doesn't actually exist.
Here's my argument then. Alex Kurtzman is a lazy writer who brags about having big budgets, yet when it really comes down to it. he uses stock footage and generic cgi in the shows that he produces. Now tell me how I would prove that without showing footage of the show?
Nobody has asked you not to show footage of the show. You still haven't told us what is wrong with using stock footage. How would the picture of a decaying fox be improved if it were a hitherto unseen fox decaying in a hitherto unseen pose? And how would it still stand out as being pulled from humanity's shared memory rather than an alien source? Future Bashir remarks that the Defiant's controls are non-holographic, and gestures above them. That means that they aren't using holograms to resemble old-style consoles in his time, and that what he is used to are floating holograms to gesture at above his console.
I've already told you twice my problem with the use of stock footage, I won't repeat myself again. *watches the relevant bit in the episode a third time* Nope, he doesn't make a gesture. He says," I haven't worked a two denominational control panel in a long time, how did we manage?" No gesture. They never show what the holographic controls look like. You act as if they do and that they are comparable to Picard, they don't and they aren't.
You ask me to make an argument of my own without posting videos, then when I do, you neg rep it tl;dr. This tells me you don't actually want a debate and it wouldn't matter what I post.
Stop right there. You can argue he's a crappy writer without putting him on "trial", with "evidence". Opinions don't have to be a contest you "win", or "lose". This is the notion that's poisoned media criticism, and why I reject and avoid vast swaths of internet punditry.
I took it back. I pulled the trigger on your reply to K before I noticed you lumped your answer to me in there.