I don't think it's inconceivable that Kasich could have won the Democratic primary, But if he did not, the reason he did not would not be because the DNC held him back. It would be because Democratic voters didn't like his policies or didn't trust him as a Republican party refugee. Different kettle of fish from Bernie supposedly having a mass appeal that has never materialized in votes.
Honestly, I can believe it. I remember Tamar telling me of a teen who was involved with that Pro-life crapola who got knocked up, crossed the nearby border into Canada, then went back to it the next week. And given the type of religion nutjob family she was likely to have, that abortion was a matter of life and death if they knew she'd gotten pregnant in the first place. There's just so much about church culture that involves keeping up false appearances. I just can't fucking do it. Maybe it had a lot to do with the stories my mom told me of how the church all but turned of her for having a baby out of wedlock at goddamn 25 years old--which for 1980s Oakland may as well have been a geriatric pregnancy--while most of the congregation had been made grandmothers at...well, my age :|. she still sincerely thinks well of all that and can't conceive of how knowing that my birth was much a bad thing that I'd want nothing to do with such people.
The purpose of being a lawyer is to drink fine whiskeys and snort cocaine off a Vietnamese hooker's tits.
Was able to see her being carried by the the military down the capitol steps and into the Hertz. Members of Congress were there paying their respects.
If this is TL;DR for you, check the link at the bottom. Two perspectives on the same story: Shelly DeMotte Kramer It's disheartening to see the "Pro-life" response to Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg's death. It's very clear that the folks who think RBG was a vehement "baby killer" have never heard of the name Susan Struck. In the 1960s & 1970s, before Roe vs Wade, abortion was not only legal on US military bases, it was actively ENCOURAGED and basically mandated. Yes, really. Captain Susan Struck was a combat nurse in Vietnam. When she got pregnant in 1970, the Air Force starkly gave her two choices. Get an abortion or be discharged. Struck wanted to keep her baby. So she was kicked out of the service. When she got back to the US, Struck sued the US Government for putting women in such a horrible position that they had to choose between either not being able to serve their country or getting an abortion that they didn't want. Do you know which ACLU lawyer took her case and got the military to change their policy? Ruth Bader Ginsburg Ginsburg approached this case with the same tenacity she would later use to help Congress draft the Pregnancy Discrimination Act of 1978. In the dark days after Roe in 1973, it was perfectly legal for employers in many states to put women in the same situation that Struck was put in--"deal with your pregnancy" or suffer the consequences of a lost job, responsibilities or pay. Ginsburg fought for the rights of women to choose life. She also fought for the rights of women to be able to work without discrimination, purchase homes, have bank accounts and a myriad of other things that make it easier for women in desperate situations to choose life in the first place. Life is never as black & white or simple as it looks through a myopic lens. It's never either/or. There's always "ands” and "buts" to everything. So before you paint Ginsburg as some satanic villain, at least acknowledge the many abortions that likely DIDN'T happen because of her tireless advocacy for women and families. #RBG https://www.military.com/history/ho...MuPygIq5r86-G4MyTNM5WyNef4hU93d2P-aiiE5KTDXwQ
There is no such thing as a mind control ray. However, if you think controlling the media narrative, and using your minions within the party to mess with the other candidate does not make a difference with most people then you are a fool. I would say the biggest effect the 2 main parties have is the control of the media to advance their agenda and to be able to define the conversation. I think Bernie actually did a great job of explaining what he was about, but since he could not control who saw his explanations, and the media was able to put their own words into his mouth, he pretty much lost. I think the reason why Trump was able to hijack the republican party was he was able to get heard by their voters over those who the party wanted instead of him. If bernie had the fame and voice trump had he probably would have beaten hillary. As for the last primary, things were a lot more fair which is why I may be disappointed by his loss, but I don't particularly blame the party as much as I blame easily manipulated low info voters. The media is very important considering most people do not do research into their candidates beyond what they hear in the mainstream news. It is not a matter of mind control when you are never presented the correct information in the first place, and when most of your voter base is a bunch of idiots (applies to both sides).
If it makes you feel any better whiter christians are being chopped down to that level. Outside the cities is a lot of poor white people who are not much better off than minorities anymore. There used to be a glut of rich white rural people, but those families have been sucked dry by illness, unemployment, land depreciation, and age. That is not to mention the normal drains of children, divorce, and family. I do not know how much longer all of that will last, but I have a feeling we are reaching the climax where the rural white family is entering the poor meat grinder and they are not doing anything to stop it because it is all Obama's fault,i and they think voting in a trump will save them. I am beginning to realize it will not be reparations that equalizes the races in the US. It will be the redistribution of wealth into the uber rich class.
Let's agree for sake of discussion that the media and the DNC were major factors in why Bernie didn't get enough voters to the polls to win the Democratic nomination in 2016 and 2020. My point is that it then becomes foolish to think that he could have won the presidency, let alone easily. Because if he got to the general election, the DNC and all the media that was against him in the primary would presumably be against him in the general. And at least some Democratic voters would stay home or cross the aisle rather than to vote for him. Even if you suppose that the DNC and the media would start to work for him rather than against him, he would have to face off against FOX and the right-wing news media and the RNC, which are at least as powerful in influencing people as the mainstream media and the DNC. Plus, he would face in Trump a candidate who would not treat him with the relative respect and restraint that Hilary and Biden did, because Trump doesn't need or particularly want Bernie voters. Plus, general election voters are almost by definition more conservative than Democratic primary voters, which means that they would be less interested in his policies. Or to look at another factor, the Electoral College probably would not favor Bernie either. Even if we buy into yet another pro-Bernie premise, that he would energie non-voters and get them to the polls, chances are those voters would be in the safe states that Hillary already won. Are there states that Hillary lost that Bernie could win? I'd say it's possible that he could have won some combination of Michigan, Wisconnsin and Pennsylvania, but he probably would not have won alI three. Bernie lost all of those to Biden this time around, although he beat Hillary in Michigan and Wisconsin. I think that he probably would have lost some Hillary states: Virginia and Illinois have had enough Republican support in the past that they could have gone to Trump's column.
Here is where I disagree. Bernie made his votes without the mainstream media. In 2016 he almost beat hillary clinton on the left. That is pretty amazing in her party. He did even better this year among a bunch of different candidates. The reality is we may never know how well he would have done this year as the dem primary system was interrupted by COVID when it was fgetting interesting. One thing I do know is Bernie had a large number of people who wanted to vote for him. No one wants to vote for Joe, but they have to if they do not want trump. Bernie had an actual fired up base. Not because they hated trump, but because they liked what he stood for. That is worth a lot in getting the message out and participating in the election. In the end the trump haters would still have had one other choice. So instead of sleepy joe losing support because no one is excited about voting for him, we would have a person with a fired up political movement, and we would have the dem crybabies in the middle who would vote for anyone but trump. Bernie did not need the media to get his fire, but Biden does. Could you imagine what would have happened if the dem media was forced to actually defend Bernie's ideas along with him or face a trump presidency? The dems have made the same mistake they made in 2016. They ran on trump hate and a candidate that is a giant turd that turns most people off. Bernie excited the base, but Biden is what is forced on them. Now the dems are losing support. That is because no one really wants their shit. The only people who want to slurp shit are republicans. The middle ground dems just eat what they are given. The progressives have been tired of the shit for a long time. Do not blame the progressives when the dems lose to trump. Blame the people who ran another turd because they were greedy scumbags. You simply cannot beat the republicans when it comes to being a greedy scumbag, and that is why the establishment dems lose. It is because they are greedy scumbags, but want to pretend they are better than that. The republicans win because they know no one believes they are good and honorable anyway.
You do realize the more you complain about me being too long to read the more I am encouraged to type. It goes to my very nature of being fucking annoying, or what I would call trolling., It is not that I purposefully do it to punish people, but I do find that the more people complain the more I enjoy making wordy responses. It is sort of like smoking. If you put me around an anti-smoker and all of a sudden I end up smoking more. Before anyone goes there, I am talking about anti-smokers, not people who just do not want to be around it. I actualoly have become a lot more respectful of the way smoke travels. The difference between smoking and this is I do not consider explaining myself at length to be the same as blowing smoke everywhere. It is true that when people complain about my tldr ways it makes me feel like learn to read you simplistic twitter moron. I like to discuss. That is why I go onto discussion boards.
She also fought for men’s rights to have custody of children and keep their jobs without consequences. Can’t remember the case off the top of my head. But RBG for for more individual civil liberties than any other just before or since.
He doesn’t care. He’s a party man. And doesn’t understand about individual candidates and doing your own research.
That would seem to be the case. I am wondering if it would be possible to wipe the memory of this bot clean and install some working software. We would have to disconnect him from the hive mind. I wonder if this is a violation of the prime directive.
He’s not a bot. I met him a hundred years ago a at a trekbbs meetup in Chicago. He’s just .. woefully ignorant of his own party’s use of propaganda.
Rather than continue to derail this thread about RBG, I have started a new thread to talk about Bernie. Mods, if it's possible, please take all the Bernie discussion from this thread and splice it into this one. Thanks!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...-ginsburg-rbg-letter-mistake-daughter-shavin/ In a sign of what a class act RBG was, here is her response to a child's letter.
They voted to name it after Sotomayor. It makes sense with her being the first Hispanic supreme court justice. As fast as the district continues to grow, it won't be long before they need to build another high school and I bet it's a lock that it'll be name for RBG.
Your story touched me. My mom and dad got pregnant before they got married and my mom gave her baby up for adoption because my asshole of a father said he could not marry her pregnant, his mom would never accept her. They gave the baby up for adoption, got married, had 3 children (including me!) This year our brother found us. It is probably one of the only best things to happen in this crappy year. Our brother is awesome and he actually had a better child hood than we did. I am thankful my mom had a baby. I am sad what she went through. She hid it all of these years and no one knew about it. She couldn't share it with anyone. How awful.
