Star Trek Discovery. [SPOILERS WITHIN]

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  1. Steal Your Face

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    So does Burnham.
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    Yes, but Burnham is far worse than her predecessors about presuming to lecture everyone else on how to do their own jobs. And while plenty of speechifying came before her, the wet-eyed guilt trip face makes it extra grating.
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    Well, SMG is the star, and Burnham probably isn't going to drink a brain-changing potion that makes her stoney faced like Rhonda Rousey, so...ya probably oughtta quit the show, and wait for Lower Decks season 2.
    Unless you LIKE being pissed, which I kinda suspect.
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    Even granting this as true for argument's sake, Burnham is working with a far more flawed crew than Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Janeway and Archer were. Or I should say, a crew whose flaws are put on more prominent display. I think that Saru, Tilly and Co. have quite possibly been portrayed as more uncertain about and just flat-out bad at their jobs in the three seasons of Discovery than all the other main crew of all the other shows combined.
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    trying to think of examples where she's conspicuously 'splainin' to others how to do their jobs (as opposed to "can you make this do this so the thing will work?").

    although the doe-eyes thing is a little contrary for a character who was "raised" Vulcan.

    Gonna be really interesting to see how her relationship with Stammets survives her willingness to let Hugh, Adira, and Saru die even when they get saved anyway. I mean, she's right and all from "the needs of the many..." through to "...and all it cost was the life of a Romulan senator..", but the personal betrayal is going to leave a mark.

    Honestly, I think the show could survive without Burnham as the centre at this point. Keep her and Booker around as a B plot, but I'm actually more intrigued by fleshing out the rest of the crew.
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    Every season of DSC so far has featured guest star characters who have been more interesting and competent than literally anyone on the hero ship (Lorca, Pike, Vance). Not a reassuring trend.

    And Stamets should be drummed out of the Fleet for his little tantrum. Burnham was...right...*makes agonized face, holds it, cries*
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    I just finished rewatching Picard last night, and it really struck me how Picards gang of burnouts and misfits is far more professional than the actual Starfleet officers on Discovery, or even Voyager. :chris:

    EDIT: Sorry, I phrased that weirdly. I meant that the Voyager crew is also more professional than the Discovery gang.
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    Honestly. It's not even an OMG BURNHAM thing. I wouldn't trust this crew to haul garbage, let alone deal with an actual crisis.
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    notably not mentioned: Enterprise :D
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    The NX-01 Enterprise crew succeeded despite themselves and their awful captain. The Discovery crew are, as written, basically terrible NPCs who just get in the way.
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    Well, Picard and Discovery stick out to me because neither of them are supposed to be proper Starfleet crews, while Discovery made the first half of this season all about reuniting with Starfleet because that's supposed to be what defines them.

    But I can't ever imagine Janeway promoting Harry Kim or Icheb to first officer, or Chakotay refusing to represent the Federation on a mission because he feels out of place that day. I don't see Soji acting irrationally every time she comes across another Synth, or Jurati throwing a tantrum because her boyfriend has to go somewhere dangerous. :shrug:
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    I'm with you on the first two, but I'd say Soji does act irrationally in meeting her brother and sister Synths until she comes to her senses, and I would say that Jurati is poorly written enough as a character that you could attribute to her whatever behavior and it could be considered within character.
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    as I recall, things didn't work out so well for Jurati's boyfriend (but that was okay, because she was under the influence of the Borg or Twinkies or something...).

    Tilley as XO is workable for me given she's only a rank grade below most of the other bridge crew and is probably the only one that isn't an essential specialist but also has the command training certification. (She's also written to be about 27 as of S3, so we can presume that despite still being a cadet in S1, she was in at least a fifth or sixth year at SFA. Based on that, it'd be presumable she would have graduated at a higher rank than ensign after the internship)

    If it was a simple matter of rank and seniority, that'd likely put Reno as #1.
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    Please. I took everything Voyager and Enterprise threw at me, I can get through this.

    Though the stoney faced potion gives me something new to dream about.

    And that is a conversation for a different area. :tactfulsilence:
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    Sorry, I should have clarified that I meant both characters as they normally are, outside of any period where they were brainwashed by the Romulans or acting on unconscious programming.

    Meanwhile Saru started withholding relevant information from Starfleet the second he saw another Kelpian again. Considering he has no idea how long Kelpians actually live after undergoing the vahar'ai, he should have immediately told Vance about the pregnant Kelpian so they could prepare for the possibility of encountering descendants of the original survivors. Picking up a trained counsellor from Kaminar would have taken five extra minutes. :shrug:
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    It ends on a cliffhanger. You might as well swipe 12 and 13 together.
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    Just finished re-watching season 2 again, and the Ba'ul warned/predicted the Kelpiens would destroy everything.
    So, the Kelpiens causing the burn doesn't exactly come out of nowhere.
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