Spectre Unmasked: Racist 'Alt-Right' Podcaster Used To Be Local Reporter

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  1. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Like someone pointed out in response to a Greg Kelly tweet today, the only rational way to read his remarks and position is that libertarianism, being the only true bullwark of communism, must prevail but it won't prevail without using the authoritarian tactics which they claim would not be part of the Libertarian Utopia. Basically to stop the bad guy you have to out-bad the bad guy.
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  2. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Maybe I have too rosey a recollection but I don't think she could have honestly anticipated how Trumpism would play out. It's one thing to speak in broad boilerplate randian platitudes, it's another to want to overthrow the government in their service. Some of it is, frankly often unawares, just political roleplaying - like the dude who owns an AR-15 for protection but would melt like the wicked witch if ever confronted with an actual crisis point where they had to shoot someone.

    Trouble is, it's near impossible to tell which is which until they cross the Rubicon.
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  3. Nova

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    Not the only other ones....but no one else openly that i was aware of
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  4. Damar

    Damar Liberal Elitist

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    Pretty accurate description of the subject of this entire thread.
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  5. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    9 million more people voted for Trump the 2nd time around.

    Maybe she wouldn't have jumped in the frey but the odds don't seem in favor of that, given what she did enable.

    I'm holding back because it's you I'm speaking to, but she's had a loooooong history of laughing of racial harrassment and enabling guys being shitty towards women. Tamar also left the board specifically because a progressive leftist who didn't suffer fools lightly took it over. Same as Scorp, Volpone and every other shitgibbon in that Rat Pack that's stepped into the Nazi ring.

    For your sake only, I'm glad this will remain speculation.
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  6. K.

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  7. We Are Borg

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    Seriously, folks. Watch the video.

    (With closed captioning, if you don't speak Nazi... I mean, German.)
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  8. Asyncritus

    Asyncritus Expert on everything

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    Glad to hear it, buddy! :techman:
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  9. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Did he FB friend request anyone else today?
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  10. The Original Faceman

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    Heil no!
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    Nein!
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    Not me, but Elwood texted me this morning saying he got a friend request from him.
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  13. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    Not me, but FB did suggest his new account to me a while back. No doubt his other one probably got banned :borg:
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    Storm worship is still strong.
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  15. Ancalagon

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  16. Diacanu

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  17. steve2^4

    steve2^4 Aged Meat

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    It's warming to know spectre spent formative years in the crucible we call WF.

    Take a bow.
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  18. Bailey

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    Yep. This wasn't the only place he posted, but for years we gave him a training ground to post his "ironic" shit unchecked.
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  19. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    People stood up to him, but they got taken down by the Tamar-kateers.
    :sigh:
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  20. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    With how people defended his "joking" sexual harassment of an underage girl we shouldn't be surprised if even worse things come to light eventually.
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  21. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    I've already said I was wrong for not taking his crap seriously. At least I think I have. If not, then I was wrong for not taking his crap seriously.
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  22. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Same. :(
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  23. Diacanu

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    Look, you grow up in America with a right-wing that pukes a never-ending volcano of dog-whistle racism, a left-wing too cowardly to point it out, a media that soft-peddles systemic racism, and every family has "that uncle/aunt/grandpa" it's gonna be hard to see.
    The internet has done a good job of ripping the veil off this shit, and waking people from their stupor, but that work was just getting started when we were the dumb kids that started this board.
    I'm a better person now than I was then, I wish I had gotten there faster, all I can do is do better going forward.
    Would I do it better with a time machine?
    Fuck yeah, I would.
    I wouldn't have given up my mod position, and I would have done everything I could to have gotten the prick banned.
    But hindsight is 20/20.
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  24. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    I called him out on some things, but there were definitely other things he wrote where at the time I also fell back on the free speech/ironic humour defense.
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    Same. :sigh:
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    I agree with this entire post, but I gotta nitpick the "dumb kids" part. I found this place 2 years after it opened--at 19, I was on the extreme left side of the age bell curve. Most posters I remember from that time were in their 30s and early 40s. As in, people who conceivably grew up in the post-integration period and knew on a surface level why saying the N word was a bad thing, of not the entirety of America's sordid past.

    And it's not like we didn't have a mega ass ton of people like Mewa and Vandygoddess and Actormike and Chup among others pointing this out before many voted with their feet. The attrition rate among women and minorities on this board is glaring.

    And certainly, there was never any excuse for the sexism.
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  27. Diacanu

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    Again, I'd fix it all with a time machine if I could.
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  28. Fisherman's Worf

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    Just wait until Baba radicalizes. The collective shame will be unbearable.
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  29. Rincewiend

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    Took you guys long enough...
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  30. Tererune

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    They knew it was bad, but it was edgelordy to say it in white company. As the internet blossomed they did it online where they felt protected like they did in all white company. There was a big difference between the hip hop fans who were white and wrestling with people like eminem using "nigga," and things like Italians and rednecks using it in white only company. Clearly one side was sympathetic and ignorant to it's effects while the other side used it to be abusive and was not ignorant to the problems.

    It was still quite obvious way back when. I am sorry to the people that were way too forgiving, but it should have never been acceptable, and I think it is why we see a lack of black participation in online message boards.

    The only place I have seen a surprising number of black participants in message boards has been the anime community. I am always amazed how a style from a culture that does not express black pretty much at all has so many fans of color. One difference I noticed in message boards and on usenet was there was an inclusivity of black people and a general fight against white supremacist push into the fandom. Places like stormfront were pushing into the online anime community back then, but they faced fierce opposition to their racist ideas. Anime Message boards were very quick to permaban racists.

    Before anyone says anything, I am not talking about the chans. There was a reason why the anime community had to go to the chans to get their anime. There was the american sterilization of legitimate releases based on the moral values of the church, and the lack of a big pipeline to handle the amount of material being released in the states and other areas where it was desired. There was a definitive love of another culture aside from white which undermined the racist ideals of the stormfront community and kept them out of the mainstream anime community. There was a large amount of filtering of the racist bullshit, and a large embrace of black fans.
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