Splitting this off from the Strange New Worlds thread so as not to distract from that awesome series. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I submit that until such time as it actually confirmed that the saucer section of the Enterprise-D is in a Starfleet museum, we don't really know its fate. Now, most Trek nerds agree that if it happens on-screen, it's "canon". So why do some nerds believe the saucer section is in a museum? The answer lies in the fact that a prop master for season two of Star Trek: Picard made a bunch of plaques for a scene at Starfleet Command where various starships were commemorated. According to the prop master, the plaque for the Enterprise-D states that the saucer section was recovered and put in the Starfleet museum. However, I submit to the jury that the plaques were technically never "on screen" because it was impossible to read them. Here is a screen shot of the scene: In addition, the official Star Trek website only says the saucer section crashed on Veridian III. There is no mention of it being recovered and put in a museum: http://startrek.com/database_article/enterprise-d So unless it's actually confirmed in Season 3 of Picard, I submit that we don't really know the fate of the saucer section. But even if we do eventually find out it's in a museum, I still ain't apologizing.
Yup. Props in 90's Trek series were full of little easter eggs and in-jokes that were absolutely never intended to be canon, because they were never intended to be readable onscreen. Would FF have us believe that one of Voyagers LCARS panels really had a Gilligan's Island reference on it in-universe? https://outsider.com/entertainment/...idden-shoutout-star-trek-the-next-generation/
Or that Voyager, which had a lieutenant commander as its original first officer, also left spacedock with a surprising number of high-ranking officers who just happened to share names with members of the Jed Bartlet administration. Or that the Enterprise D sickbay really did have an indicator for the patient's remaining medical insurance... I wonder if fandom will at some point settle on a "split verdict" on the question of whether Okudagrams count as canon .... wherein they don't count if they're from pre-HD days, but if the show is recent we presume that the creators mean literally everything that shows up on screen.
Obviously Starfleet isn't going to leave the wreckage of a starship lying around. Even if it is never mentioned on Picard, it's not unreasonable that they'd try to memorialize 1701-D somehow.
Agreed. At the very least, they'd need to remove all evidence of the ship and the crash to avoid violating the prime directive once the Veridians develop telescopes and space travel and such.
And for more immediate purposes, crashed or not, there's still probably plenty of stuff in the Enterprise D saucer that the Romulans would love to take apart in a lab. Even if they couldn't lift it off in one piece, Starfleet would probably cart off the saucer in tiny pieces and send the pieces hurtling into the sun rather than leave it sitting there.
What's this now? >EDIT< Nevermind. I found it. https://slate.com/technology/2013/0...aptain-janeway-killed-president-bartlett.html It's Claudia J. Cregg, BTW.
Nobody (not even FF) thought The Rubber Ducky Room was canon until Tendi said so. And even then, is it really a room with a giant rubber ducky, or does the rubber ducky symbolize some top secret research?
Ok @Diacanu that's enough for media central. And @Federal Farmer since you're now onboard the following up on things you said train I look forward to seeing your return to many Red Room threads.
Obviously Starfleet isn't going to do that and yes it's not unreasonable to try and memorialize the 1701 D somehow. Maybe someone like, oh I don't know, Geordi would restore the whole damn thing.
I apologized in the Picard thread. But the irony is that only @Bill Carson would be right about one of the dumbest plot contrivances in Star Trek history. I'm not joking. Resurrecting the Enterprise-D is easily in the top three stupid things Trek has ever done.
I mean, Trek has done a lot of dumb things -- Spock's Brain, Threshold, women-can't-be-captains in Turnabout Intruder...I don't see how resurrecting the Ent-D comes close to making the list. What are the other two top stupid things in your opinion.
1. Kirk's death in Generations. Not opposed to Kirk dying (everyone does eventually), but it was the way that he died. I also get that the theme of Generations was all about loss, but come on. This was just the TNG showrunners giving a big finger to TOS. 2. Star Trek Enterprise. The entire endeavour was a stupid mistake from the moment "Faith of the Heart" started playing. 3. Resurrecting the Enterprise-D. It simply doesn't make sense and, from a plot perspective, there was no reason to do so other than to get the old gang back on the iconic bridge and circle-jerk the fanboys. But, as you said, Trek has done a lot of stupid things. Those are the big ones off the top of my head. The Enterprise-D thing may eventually drop a few spots in my ranking, as it's still raw.
