What If There’s A Line to Kill Hitler?

Okay, so what if someone does manage to crack time travel that enables us to go back to about 100 years ago, in the right part of the world for a few moments, if it enables us to kill Hitler, we're going to take it. Argue this or that about things in the 21st Century, unless you're either the dumbest possible pacifist imaginable, or you're an actual fucking Nazi, if you find yourself in Germany in 1932 with a chance to take a sniper shot with a rifle, you're going to take it. Doesn't mean that you won't prevent really awful things from happening later on, you just know that if anyone who was looking at the kind of thing the world saw after WWII, that if you could kill Hitler in 1932, you'd fucking do it.

Perhaps, for some reason we can't imagine, this somehow made things worse. I hope that while we'd all agree the person did the wrong thing, they did it for all the right reasons. Throw in that for complicated reasons no one can go back farther than 1932 when time travel is developed across all the dimensions. And all those parallel universes share the same nexus point with their time-travel tech, so all of them end up back there because that's the commonality locus of their universes?

Anyway this is just a long-winded way of me saying that if I see a SF story involving people from parallel dimensions that look like this



in order to slap Hitler? I'm onboard!

Like most guntards, you overestimate the ease of killing someone thus bringing into question your humanity.

I would send tererun back to talk sense into him.

INT. HITLER'S OFFICE - DAY

Adolf Hitler is sitting at his desk, looking over some papers. He is wearing his usual uniform, and his face is stern.

Suddenly, the door bursts open and a transvestite named Tererun enters. She is wearing a long, flowing dress and high heels.

TERERUN: Adolf Hitler! I have come to talk to you!

HITLER: Who are you? And how did you get in here?

TERERUN: I am Tererun, and I have been sent back in time to talk sense into you.

HITLER: You are a fool! I am the Fuhrer of Germany, and I will not be talked to like this!

TERERUN: I know who you are, and I know what you have done. You are a monster, and you must be stopped.

HITLER: I am not a monster! I am a hero! I am fighting for the future of Germany!

TERERUN: Your future is a future of death and destruction. You are leading Germany down a path of darkness, and you must be stopped.

HITLER: I will not be stopped! I will destroy anyone who stands in my way!

TERERUN: You cannot destroy me. I am from the future, and I know what you are going to do. I know that you will start a war, and that you will kill millions of people. But I also know that you can be saved.

HITLER: Saved? How?

TERERUN: With anime.

Hitler looks at her blankly.

TERERUN: Anime is a Japanese art form that tells stories through animation. It can be funny, sad, exciting, or thought-provoking. It can teach you about different cultures and ways of life. And it can help you to understand yourself and the world around you.

HITLER: I don't understand.

TERERUN: Let me show you.

Tererun pulls out a laptop and starts playing an anime video. It's a story about a young boy who dreams of becoming a great hero. The boy faces many challenges, but he never gives up. In the end, he defeats the evil forces and saves the day.

Hitler watches the video with interest. When it's over, he looks at Tererun with a new understanding.

HITLER: I see. Anime can teach people about courage, friendship, and the power of good to overcome evil.

TERERUN: Exactly. And it can help people to find hope in even the darkest of times.

HITLER: Thank you, Tererun. I think you may have just saved the world.

Tererun smiles.

TERERUN: You're welcome. Now, let's go watch some more anime.

* * *

The scene ends with Tererun and Hitler sitting on the couch, watching anime. They are both
smiling, and they look like they are having a good time.

I'm a clever pacifist.
I'd kidnap him as a baby, and give him to be raised by lesbians.
Reprogram the evil out with a more tolerant upbringing.

I mean, Hitler's the obvious choice.
But there's Stalin, Pol Pot, and Kissinger to choose from too. And a few others too. (Mengele, etc)

But then again, yelling "Nein! Dumkopf Adolf!" as you off Hitler does have its charm.

Reagan.

Before or after he made Bedtime for Bonzo?

The world is a non-linear system. The killing of Hitler (or any other change to the timeline at all) would result in none of us ever existing. So there's that.

I just want whatever drugs @Tuckerfan is on when he posts these crazy-ass threads.

True; no Hitler, no WWII, no WWI, no Pearl Harbor, no Pearl Harbor, my grandfather doesn't go to the Navy, then he's not in the right time and place to meet my grandmother when he comes back, and I blip out.

Not if you subscribe to the single thread theory. What has happened has happened.

I tried to get the bard to write the next scene:

Tererun compliments Hitler's mustache, which arouses him. They start making out on the couch. Tererun, an accomplished dominatrix brings Hitler to climax multiple times. The last time she compliments his childlike nubby.

Crestfallen Hitler proceeds with the Holocaust adding gay and trans people to the list.

History proceeds as it always did.

The bard refused to write it.

Fuck, yeah.

Let's do it!

I think Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal already did it.

Wait... was Colonel Staufenberg a time traveler?

He had enough names to be a Time Lord:

Claus Philipp Maria Justinian Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg

Not how I would envision myself doing it, but it seems fine. It needs more glory hole.

So you are really trying for the death by snu snu route.

without hitler my grandfather isn't over in germany beating up guys who look at my grandmother while rebuilding their infrastructure during the korean war. He always played it that he fought in germany during the war, he just forgot to put korean in there, and the fact he was probably beating up the townspeople and other american troops because he was a giant bully.

I would probably use the word nubby.

Then yoiu end up in the world where dayton kitchens rules the universe and he roams around nude with Trump's head attached to the tip of his cock.

Don't fuck with time because there are worse things than death. We learned this in Event Horizon.

Congratulations. You just made Dayton hard.

And confused. Because he's hard.

We don't know if WWII would have happened or not. Given the conditions in Germany at the time, its possible that another individual might have stepped into that role. They wouldn't have done the same things Hitler did, so maybe no WWII, or maybe one that starts at a different time, lasts longer, etc.

Point being, even taking Hitler out of the equation, you could still end up with a genocidal dictator running a European nation and plunging us into a global conflict. So perhaps things happen that cause your grandparents to still meet and to provide the same gametes that created your parents.

Prepare to be disappointed.

You still had Benito and Joseph still getting uppity.
But without Adolf, Franco might not have forced España into siesta.

Keep it simple and convince him to stop at the Sudetenland.
Danzig corridor returned in exchange for Kalingrad to Poland
Palestine gets carved up for Israel a little early to accommodate the expulsion rather than extermination of Jews. Italian claims in North Africa recognized.

Molotov/Von Ribbentrop pact never happens, no two pronged attack on Poland as mutual support treaties created with Britain and France and Germany to defend against further Soviet expansion west (Winter War with Finland inspires this).

Stalin tries anyways... gets held up for a few years until GB/France get it together. Gets pushed back. Yugoslavia gets involved, isolated, and then falls apart 50 years earlier. Stalin expands southward into Iran instead, ending British influence there. German/British/French forces manage to hold the soviets roughly along the Euphrates, retaining influence in and through the Ottoman region.

Meanwhile, Japan attacks the Soviet assets and possessions at Vladivostok and Port Arthur instead of Pearl Harbour in 1941 and gains some soviet territory to the north . Long story short, they become the dominant culture of a (forced) panAsian union running from the Amur River to Jakarta. THe US is compensated to let them have the Philippines and Britain concedes Burma, giving Japan control over pretty much all of SE Asia. Australasia is retained by the British Commonwealth and secured by treaty brokered by AH hisself

America continues to be the world's arsenal, first building licensed versions of GBF alliance designs, but soon starts improving designs and tech in collabotation with the original companies/developers. Nothing timeline breaking like a generational leap in jet aircraft or anything, but the design line between the B17 and 29 might run slightly differently with consultants from Heinkel or Avro being available and slight variations in purpose.

Soviets surrender by spring of 1944.

I see the glitch in your plan.

I have been toying around with a movie treatment (or more like a third of one), centered around this kind of premise, for some time in the past... the idea was that the protagonist travels back in time (or rather: gets thrown back in time involuntarily) and finds himself somewhere in Europe in the year 1910. After some intial confused stumbling around, he decides to make the best of it and go kill Hitler. So he travels to Vienna, where Hitler, as an art academy reject, is living in a men's dormitory and lives off painting postcards. He somehow obtains a gun and goes looking for Hitler... but when he finally finds him, he has to face the fact that he does not have it in him to shoot the guy (with the living human being in front of him the whole history book knowledge becomes kind of abstract and all that). So he decides to... buy his art! Basically trying to become his patron, trying to make Hitler a successful artist (probably not an easy task, given the unremarkable kitschy postcards) so that the guy doesn't have to become a dictator.

Unclear how this is resolved -- probably Hitler turns out to be horrible anyways, but I never thought of a good ending. Most likely our protagonist gets fed up with the insufferable asshole and shoots him anyway, but now finally with a human reason, not an abstract one.

Also, an obvious plot hole, but not impossible to fill: where does the protagonist get the money to play the role of wealthy collector?

I also remained unclear about the tone of this... it sounds too stupid for a serious kind of tone, but I didn't really see it as a comedy either. Hitler comedies are hard to do well.

Convinces Alma Mahler to finance the protaganist. After all, she was going behind Gustav Mahler's back because he wasn't encouraging her to follow her own music compositional dreams until he had a breakdown and Freude clued him in.
Gustav Mahler bought it in 1911 in Vienna, so there's a good historical cross reference.

Unfortunately, if you went back in time to kill Hitler, we wouldn't know it, because our timeline would still continue onward. We're already a branch where Hitler was alive. Going back in time to change that would just create a new branch and so we'd never know you succeeded.