Star Trek: Strange New Worlds [SPOILERS]

Discussion in 'Media Central' started by Diacanu, Jan 4, 2007.

  1. Raoul the Red Shirt

    Raoul the Red Shirt Professional bullseye

    Joined:
    May 3, 2004
    Messages:
    13,021
    Ratings:
    +10,926
    It could be that he was lying about his actual biological need to go to Vulcan, or simply mistaken. But if so, he went pretty far out of his way to do it.

  2. 14thDoctor

    14thDoctor Oi

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2007
    Messages:
    31,027
    Ratings:
    +47,882
    Yeah, I feel like he's being indirect and flowery there. Like you already said, it's implied he mated with Saavik on Genesis, showing the location wasn't really important.
  3. AlphaMan

    AlphaMan The Last Dragon

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2004
    Messages:
    10,909
    Location:
    NY
    Ratings:
    +9,925
    I was thinking that too. This episode was dark and gritty, but I feel it came the expense of Captain Pike. Dude really needs to put his foot down. That last conversation between him & M’Benga? He knew that they were lying.
    • popcorn popcorn x 1
  4. AlphaMan

    AlphaMan The Last Dragon

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2004
    Messages:
    10,909
    Location:
    NY
    Ratings:
    +9,925
    For the record, I really liked the last few episodes. This latest one reminded me of In The Pale Moonlight from DS9.

    I hope this show is around for the long haul, but I had a disturbing thought… so everyone knows Marvel is looking to make a Fantastic Four movie and wanted Adam Driver for Reed Richards. Well, I’ve read somewhere that Driver’s not interested.

    Anson Mount would make a perfect Reed Richards. Better than Driver, IMHO. SNW would loose him forever. :(
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • popcorn popcorn x 1
  5. Ten Lubak

    Ten Lubak Salty Dog

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2006
    Messages:
    12,380
    Ratings:
    +27,356
    Yeah I could definitely see Mount being a very good Reed Richards
    • Agree Agree x 1
  6. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2004
    Messages:
    30,542
    Ratings:
    +34,046
    well, damn... not like I can fix it. and since when can't we grab pics from memory alpha?

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Fucked up thing though? Booker Bradshaw is a decade younger than Babs Olusanmokun in these pictures AND 20 years younger than the character of M'Benga in the setting of 2267-69. dude was born in 1940...
  7. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    101,439
    Ratings:
    +82,274
    I've got the solution!
    SNW M'Benga goes back in time, and his younger self takes his place, and erases him, and becomes TOS M'Benga.
    Thus youthing him, and demoting him.
  8. shootER

    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2004
    Messages:
    49,373
    Location:
    The Steam Pipe Trunk Distribution Venue
    Ratings:
    +50,796
    Back then people in general seemed to look older at a given age than they do now (or for the past 40 years or so, IMHO).

    The 18-year old seniors in my parents' 1957/1959 yearbooks all look like they're in their mid-30s, with 9-5 jobs or they're housewives.

    At the same age twenty eight years later, my classmates and I all look like kids. :marathon:
    • Agree Agree x 3
  9. 14thDoctor

    14thDoctor Oi

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2007
    Messages:
    31,027
    Ratings:
    +47,882
    Yeah, life was harder back then and people weren't as nourished. Shorter life expectancies and such.

    IIRC, Peter Capaldi started playing the 12th Doctor around the same age that William Hartnell had to stop playing the 1st Doctor as it was becoming too strenuous for him.
  10. Tuckerfan

    Tuckerfan BMF

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2007
    Messages:
    77,329
    Location:
    Can't tell you, 'cause I'm undercover!
    Ratings:
    +155,808
    In the movie “Cocoon,” Wilfred Brimley is living in a retirement home in his 50s, so he’s younger than Tom Cruise is now.
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • popcorn popcorn x 2
  11. 14thDoctor

    14thDoctor Oi

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2007
    Messages:
    31,027
    Ratings:
    +47,882
    Yeah, a Golden Girls remake today could star Jennifer Aniston and Jennifer Lopez if you cast new actors the same age as the originals.
    • Agree Agree x 3
    • popcorn popcorn x 1
  12. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2004
    Messages:
    30,542
    Ratings:
    +34,046
    oh, I get that. even with the grey hair and beard, I still have to double down on the fact I really am in my mid 50s. Keeps me in 37 year olds though ;)

    the original point was @Nova's contention that they aren't the "same" character, which is generally fuelled by the age difference between the actors.
    • Agree Agree x 1
  13. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2004
    Messages:
    30,542
    Ratings:
    +34,046
    Like-in universe TOS, M'Benga is in his mid 40s
    SNW, he's about the same age as B O... late 30s.

    visually, both seem plausible.
  14. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2004
    Messages:
    27,138
    Location:
    Adelaide, South Australia
    Ratings:
    +39,703
    Well, until you ask a kid at least!
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • Winner Winner x 1
    • popcorn popcorn x 1
  15. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    49,131
    Ratings:
    +37,389
    Mount for Bruce Wayne IMO

    (assuming as supposedly discussed that Brave and Bold is about a mature, adjusted, Bruce mentoring Damien et al)
    • popcorn popcorn x 1
  16. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    49,131
    Ratings:
    +37,389
    Also, Paul Wesley is too damned old to be playing 27 year old Lt. Kirk

    Assuming this whole revival thing runs it's course, by the time he's supposed to be playing 33 year old Captain Kirk he's going to be probably in his late 40's (because more than one year IRL time passes to shoot and broadcast one year-ish in universe)

    That's not going to end well.
    • Agree Agree x 2
  17. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2004
    Messages:
    27,138
    Location:
    Adelaide, South Australia
    Ratings:
    +39,703
    HOLY SHIT THAT WAS AMAZING.
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  18. StarMan

    StarMan Fresh Meat

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2004
    Messages:
    620
    Ratings:
    +413
    I ALMOST DID A LITERAL ROFLMAO - NEARLY FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR BACKWARDS W/ THE KLINGONS.

    It's a sturdy recliner too.

    These bastards are mad - love it.

    Also, that sure as hell better not be it for Spock & Christine.
    • Funny Funny x 3
    • Agree Agree x 1
  19. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

    Joined:
    May 17, 2005
    Messages:
    42,365
    Location:
    San Diego
    Ratings:
    +56,094
    This episode was alright. Wish they could've pushed more choreography with a few of the numbers but hell, half the cast besides Celia Rose Gooding had to be autotuned so they probably couldn't attemp anything to strenuous on that.

    I've been in the fence about Ka'an but it worked a little for me here. I'd forgotten about his thing with Carol.

    I feel like the internet is gonna have it's pitchforks coming for Christine for how quickly she dumped Spock :lol:

    That last number with the Klingon insert :lol:

    It was fun.
  20. Nyx

    Nyx Guest

    Ratings:
    +0
    S02E09 "Subspace Rhapsody"

    I am a musically oriented person. Music is my life. I hear harmonies in all things.

    This episode was flawless.
    Flawless.

    Also, I just about pissed myself when the Klingons showed up on screen.

    Fucking flawless.
    • Love Love x 1
    • Happy Happy x 1
  21. Clippy

    Clippy Fresh Meat

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2020
    Messages:
    293
    Location:
    'murika
    Ratings:
    +448
    Klingon K-Pop ftw.
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Funny Funny x 1
  22. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2004
    Messages:
    30,542
    Ratings:
    +34,046
    well, 35 year old Shatner (in 1966) vs 41 year old Paul Wesley (who would've been 39 at time of filming in 2021).

    I agree, it's a bit of an issue if you stare too hard at it. But TV has always had people playing younger, and Trek is no different in that regard. Hell, Melissa Navia and Christina Chong are both almost 40.
    • Agree Agree x 1
  23. shootER

    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2004
    Messages:
    49,373
    Location:
    The Steam Pipe Trunk Distribution Venue
    Ratings:
    +50,796
    I love music. A lot. But the list of musicals I like is extremely short.

    This episode of SNW is not among them.

    Just not my thing. Like how I love jazz but can't stand Dixieland. :shrug:
    • Agree Agree x 2
  24. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    60,762
    Location:
    'twixt my nethers
    Ratings:
    +27,681
    SNW S02E09

    Mother of fucking GOD, that was appalling.
    :midnightsuicide:
    Last edited: Aug 3, 2023
    • Funny Funny x 5
  25. Jenee

    Jenee Driver 8

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2008
    Messages:
    25,588
    Location:
    On the train
    Ratings:
    +19,724
    Same. Well. I do like Dixieland and I love musicals, but this episode of SNW was god awful. This is why the writers are writing for SNW and not musicals on Broadway.

    Sounded like junior high chorus try-outs.
    • Funny Funny x 1
  26. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2004
    Messages:
    27,138
    Location:
    Adelaide, South Australia
    Ratings:
    +39,703
    At times yeah, but also I don't mind it. The logic was that they would burst into song, not that they'd be good at it.

    I admire that SNW is willing to swing for the fences with these things (crossover with an animated show, musical episodes) that sometimes could not hit the mark some want, but when they work or people like them are amazing. Still more fun than a random filler episode.
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Winner Winner x 1
  27. Jenee

    Jenee Driver 8

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2008
    Messages:
    25,588
    Location:
    On the train
    Ratings:
    +19,724
    I would not have minded it nearly as much if the tempo was just a bit more upbeat. For crying out loud, they nearly put me to sleep. And it’s only 6:30 here.

    Also, as far as the storyline goes … I could see if some … sub space … energies (?) had such and effect on the beings of the galaxy that they felt the need to tell the truth. But, that makes them break out in song? What could possibly be the scientific explanation for that?

    They’re making Young Sheldon cry.

    I could see it in Buffy because it was completely fantasy. This …. This was a travesty.
    • Agree Agree x 1
  28. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2004
    Messages:
    27,138
    Location:
    Adelaide, South Australia
    Ratings:
    +39,703
    All the stuff about improbability fields (which felt very HHGTTG) was Spock speculation. If you prefer, just pretend that they accidentally blasted a song into the contiuum and woke a Q up who decided to have some fun.

    I do wish they had done one of these two options now though (Two videos, both worth clicking through to):

    https://twitter.com/EditKrisEdit/status/1687065205740621825?s=20
    https://twitter.com/JamesAmeyUK/status/1687074344730492928?s=20
    • Agree Agree x 3
    • Funny Funny x 1
  29. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    47,732
    Ratings:
    +31,717
    Oh god, Sabotoge would have been kind of cool.
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Happy Happy x 1
  30. Jenee

    Jenee Driver 8

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2008
    Messages:
    25,588
    Location:
    On the train
    Ratings:
    +19,724
    I’ll watch the videos tomorrow, but … I accept Spock speculation and … Q would have been a …another storyline.

    I think I just so disliked the singing, its colored my perception of the storyline of the episode.
    • Agree Agree x 1