The American Society of Magical Negroes

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  1. Tuckerfan

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    That's the title.



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  2. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    I am curious how this film might turn out and got made, as I think it likely speaks to a small demographic while potentially pissing off the rest.

    Most white people are probably not going to take it in stride that there's a secret society of black people who need to use magical powers to pacify them.

    A lot of black people are not going to like that premise either.

    The interracial relationship could pose problems for people in both groups. Not the mere notion of a black man being interested in a white woman, but that a magical black man would apparently choose to risk his magic and his memory and possibly more to be with any particular person.

    Fans of romcoms are not necessarily going to like the sci-fi/fantasy components and vice-versa.

    I will be curious to see if it can stick the landing.
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    I mean... The movie is obviously satirical, right? I thought righties loved satire? :chris:
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    Yeah, I heard about this, and I immediately had to look up the director thinking "oh, please let the director be black, or this is a hate crime. :whew:".
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    Yeah, when righties are picking on you, it's "get a sense of humor, pussy :finger:".
    Dish it back at them "racism against whites :weep:" "woke mob :pwease:" "cancel police :cry:".
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    You can't always predict how a movie will turn out based on a 3 minute snippet.

    But I do think it is safe to say that the ultimate message of this movie will not be that "all/most white people are bad/inferior/problematic." It will most likely show that the magical negroes are as close=minded or worse than their white clients, and advocate for glossing over color/cultural differences.
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    Snowflakes don't love, or understand, satire.
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    The first time I heard this title, I winced. Obviously this is a comedy, so I'll give it a little leeway, but then they decide to examine interracial relationships with it? Really? With a title like that? I guess I'll give it a shot, but I think this one is dead in the water.
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    Remember folks, the above poster has fewer brains than a dog shit mixed with bathtub gin and blended up with a flat-Earther's kidneys.
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    Remember. folks. someone who changed their av to include a swastika should be taken as an authority on racism.
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    This reminds me of "Bamboozled (2000)." It was a scathing commentary, couched in satire, about the cost of catering to white sensibilities as a black person. I thought it was very good. I will certainly check this out.
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    Okay, if the magical negroes turn a Rush Limbaugh stand-in into a bullfrog, and make him live in the water hazard on a golf course forever, then I might watch.
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    This seems like something that should go to streaming and not the theaters. It is a niche romcom. Romcoms are dying in the theaters as is because why do you need to ever see them in the theater? Then you are going to turn off a large number of people, especially in america.

    It will tick off the right people, and get some free advertising. I like the troll and the white tears that will come from it are great, but it just seems like an expensive way to get racists to cry.

    I might give it a chance, but I prefer my romcoms in anime harem form or at least in some other genre like superhero or action movie. At the very least when it comes out on streaming I will let it play out while I am gaming or out getting coffee so I can thumbs up it so we can get some more, but I am not paying theater prices for this. I guess this is a magical fantasy romcom, but the magical fantasy isn't really catching me, and I loved dear white people.
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    tHe ReAl RaCiSm Is AgAiNsT wHiTe PeOpLe

    wHaT aBoUt ThE iRiSh???!!!
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    is it jsut me, or is this the same basic plot as Little Mermaid?

    magical being giving up their magic along with everything else for love.
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    Only the ones that use the hard R :bergman:

    At any rate, Raoul makes a lotta good points. Those who follow me on Facebook have seen some of my relatives know I come from a well blended family but there's a lotta discourse surrounding how overrepresented interracial couples are in media (and especially with queer couples!) and the idea of a Black having to learn a lesson from a white person is...not a great look.

    I hope to God this is another Q-Force situation of extremely bad marketing but I can't blame Black folks for having questions overall.
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  20. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    A few differences:

    Ariel was basically ignorant about landlubbers and romantic relationships in general, and was manipulated by a malevolent Ursula into giving up her abilities. She's in a position where it's plausible that she could romanticize Eric and the surface world because she has so little information about it and context for how it works.

    The protagonist here is a grown-ass man who (presumably) has dated in the past, who knows that there are more fish in the sea, and who has the whole backstory on the possible inherent drama of black man-white woman relationships even outside the loss-of-magical-abilities part. Moreover, he's apparently going into the decision to lose not just his own magic but that of every magical Negro with open eyes. Because this one woman, who doesn't even possess Sydney Sweeney-sized tig-ol-bitties, is worth it.

    But you reminded me that I need to watch live action black Ariel get her groove on, so thanks for that.
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    I should say, this movie feels very narrow-casted toward me;

    Black guy who likes sci-fi and who has been cool with interracial relationships his whole life, and is a big fan of David Alan Grier. Not as big a fan of Justice Smith, though he was good in the D&D movie and OK in Detective Pikachu. I also want to reward studios for making non-franchise, non-award-bait movies, so I will probably check it out during its theatrical run.
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    You aren't racist, you just happen to share a lot of the same opinions as racists.
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    This goes down to the reasons I hate love stories in general. It is propaganda that tells everyone that lust is going to turn out so awesome that no matter what you sacrifice it will all be worth it because it is the only thing of value in the universe.

    Then we wonder why our society is so warped with people who make sex and marriage the be all end all of their existence. Really, the guy in the movie is going to make a choice to screw everyone over because love, and then everything will work out ok because love. It is a complete fantasy because it just simply does not work that way, but so many people buy into the fantasy. Then you get a whole bunch of INCELs who turn to andrew tate for advice because they believed in the wrong fantasy and didn't drown in the sewers playing TMNT. That is not getting into the other gender's troubles in believing they are all princesses who need to be treated like they are special, and then complain because every guy is stalking them. The only difference between stalking and romance is whether or not you are interested in the stalker.
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    Corbin Bernsen stalked his wife.
    He told his love story on Conan O'Brien, and Conan was totally like "omigawd, you're a stalker! :soma:".

    So, yeah, if you're a creep, and you want creeping to work, you basically have to be Corbin Bernsen.
    He's the only one to pull it off.
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    He is not the only one. When I was younger I drove an hour and a half to drop a plushie off on this girl I wanted's car while she was on a date with her boyfriend. That would have been really creepy had it not worked, and she didn't want me. Instead it was romantic and she dumped his ass and came home early from his parent's house. Of course, that was in the 90's.

    The lie goes onto the INCEL that if you just do romantic shit you can make her see how great you are, but if she is not into you then you are just bugging her and creeping her out. From the other side of the equation if you are not interested in the other person no gifyts or romantic gestures are going to change things. If they do then you are probably a whore.
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    Michael Caine did as well.
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    Oh yeah, I forgot it does have that going for it, huh?

    Like I said,it's possible that it's enrangement bait in the trailer but I've been burned before.
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    Oh snap, I didn't even realize that this movie had come out in theaters except by happenstance.

    Apparently and unsurprisingly, it's not doing so hot. Maybe I'll try to catch a showing still.
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    I would go see Dune 2, even if it is a second time, and wait for streaming. The worst that happens is you die before it comes out and even then the worst is you saw Dune 2 twice on the big screen.
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    I am curious enough about "The American Society of Magical Negroes" to want to see sooner rather than later if it is as bad as its box office suggests or if it is actually clever, fun, quirky with a narrow appeal to specifically people like me. It may not make it to a streaming platform at all, or might not make it to one that I subscribe to any time soon.

    I was kinda meh toward Dune, not having read the novels or having any particular affinity toward the franchise. I'll probably just wait for that to come to Max in 45-90 days.
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