Movie About an Accidental Killing Has an Accidental Killing

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  1. Uncle Albert

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    Admitting it was already a gunfight? That the situation was already out of control before he arrived?
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    No, but it had the potential. Just like all situations like that. All it takes is one careless … flick of a cigarette butt to ignite a forest fire.

    And a white kid carrying around a rifle that looks like military issue. In 2020. Where a black man (reasonably or not)was killed by white police. Was exactly that cigarette butt.

    Prior to that, every protest had been peaceful.

    I know. I was there. Not at the scene, but in Kenosha.
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    jesus fucking christ, sham and dian are off on a bullshit tangent again.

    what the fuck are you two idiots even talking about at this point? There are no protests, no forest fires caused by cigarettes. This is about the next trial in this case which is happening because the first one ended in a mistrial, IIRC.

    Just go fuck and stop derailing the conversation with your luv grunts.

    God damn @Jenee and @Uncle Albert need to start learning how to fucking text their arguments.
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    UA hates liberals with every fiber of his being, and enjoys them being humiliated, hurt, and even killed.
    But he can't admit that last one, because it's a bad look.
    He'll scream 'til he's hoarse that he doesn't care about good and bad looks, but he does care.
    He likes that Rittenhouse killed a mentally ill kid, and a skateboarder, and he sees them as liberal, because well, he lumps his biases into one big stewpot.
    But again, he can't own up to being murder-horny, so he has to bury it all in legalese mumbo-jumbo NRA newsletter bullshit.
    Jenee, being the naïve girlfriend, thinks he's arguing in good faith, and is willing to go down the rabbit hole with his lying stupid ass.
    And we get to have the sad spectacle.
    Lucky us.

    But yeah, it's probably also a sex thing.
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    One day, Uncle Albert hopes to grow up to be just like Kyle Rittenhouse.
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    At some point you'd think prosecutors would realize they're just :yeehaw:. If I was on the jury and you somehow proved that he pulled the trigger, that's still a long way from convincing me that Baldwin somehow was responsible after his armorer handed him the gun and told him it was "cold". Does hiring an incompetent armorer make him guilty? I'm not sure. You might get somewhere if you can show that he knew the armorer was unqualified/incompetent and hired her, or allowed her to be hired anyway, but if someone lies about their qualifications, exaggerates their qualifications or someone lies on their behalf, whaddayagonnado? :clyde:
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    If I know you are drunk and hand you the keys to the car and you drive and kill someone I have responsibility in that. If you can prove that he was aware of people fucking around with the gun and he knew she was not doing her jod right, then maybe.

    I would say that would be very hard to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, but I do not know what evidence is there.
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    Fucked up that Troma movies have better safety precautions than "Rust" did.
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    This may be involuntary manslaughter due to other people's involvement which I could see being a rather tough pill to swallow for her. She is the safety person, and she is one of the people who should face the penalties for not securing the ammo and gun. However, if someone else was responsible fior circumventing her rules and security, or a5t least involved in the bullet getting mixed in, then they should share the punishment with her.

    I do not know what the situation was.

    I have been responsible for firearms that could cause injury before. If a player mixed a marble into their paintrball gun and shot someone in the goggles they could lose their eyesight and there would be a possibility of death resulting from that sort of injury. As the person respo0nsible for safety I migyhrt be responsible because it was my responsibility to make sure people used only paintballs bought at our field because of incidents like that. Where i would feel terrible for the injury happening, I would also be pissed at someone for doing that, and it would have been easy to miss.

    This is a different situation, and this does send a message to the safety people enough is fucking enough because this is a gun that shoots bullets and you cannot be playing around with them, or have other p[eople handling them and insure there is no mix up. In her case I would also be pissed because there is no reason to use a real gun when the replica can look perfect and deny the use of an actual bullet while allowing a fake and safe alternative. Loosing 18 months of your life for the need to use a real gun when a replica would be fine is bullshit, and I would be angry at others for even wanting to do such a thing.

    There is plenty of blame to go around, and I think the industry needs to be penalized foir a stupid desire for realism in a fake fucking movie where a prop would be just as real when yopu figure sound and flash are often augmented or totally dubbed over.
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    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna147746

    The filing also notes that Gutierrez-Reed has another felony charge pending for allegedly hiding a firearm from security at a New Mexico bar and sneaking it into the venue. The filing says, “Upon successfully circumventing the security at the bar she went into the restroom and made a selfie video stating ‘They checked my purse but they didn’t cheek my butt cheeks! Wah, wah, wah.’”

    Fucking Christ, the kid's an idiot. :jayzus:
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