‘I was going to go down fighting’ says 6th grader who grabbed bat during school shooting

Not the Onion, America!



https://www.newsweek.com/12-year-ol...s-he-was-ready-go-down-fighting-1420570?amp=1

I want Brooke Baldwin.

Huah.

More kids like him, please. And some adults.

Kendrick Castillo, 18, killed while taking down one of the two shooters.

Also props to the others who helped Castillo. They aren't named but he wasn't alone.

And notice how the media isn't harping on this shooting?

One shooter was a trans and the other was emo. Both had mental health issues and drug issues. Both hated Christians and Trump.

And since we learned from Tererun that a single Nazi asshole wearing a MAGA hat means everyone who voted for Trump is a Nazi that means, using Terelogic, that Tererun and Nova are murderers.

Your welcome for making this a proper Red Room thread. It was the least good thing I could do today.

Yes. The tree of liberty* must be frequently watered with the blood of brave children.



*liberty being the ability to enjoy your hobby to the fullest extent possible with no care about anyone else

I mean, who might fight back successfully and prevent such bloodshed as lefties crave to drive their agendas.

Anc don't you own guns? I could have sworn that you said you do at some point. Please clear that up for me.
BTW how will the media spin this if indeed (as it states in this link) the shooters were trans & anti-Trump and at least one is a registered Democrat?
The shooters don't fit the narrative at all! Somehow this incident just has to be tied to the MAGA right wing Republitards if not Trump himself!
The universe will implode if anyone committing a violent act with a gun is exposed as not being a racist homophobic bullying privileged bigot!

https://www.weaselzippers.us/420043...ti-christian-hated-trump-registered-democrat/

Attention, Subjects:

Responsibility for your lives is solely held by the State.

Refrain from taking independent action to protect your lives. You are directed to remain passive and cower in the face of violence until representatives of the State arrive to address the situation. Under no circumstances are you to assume responsibility for your own safety or those of others.

Your cooperation is expected and required. It's for the good of society.

I don't know what you are talking about. I have seen both shooters in multiple articles from major news sources, along with the kid who stopped them, and for some reason some 12 year old who's dad got him on TV because he said he would beat the shooters up with a bat.

Perhaps you should watch some media aside from faux news before you spread their clear lies like the tool you are? Just a thought.

So now our Dayton level guntard wants to give 12 year old kids guns so they might fight back against school shooters.

There is a fucking idea from a complete moron. Hey @Dayton3 you better step up your game forbin is competing for your village idiot prize.

Could you imagine the bloodshed of a school full of kids armed with guns?

I've given up trying to list the weird ideas that school officials have come up with in how to deal with school shootings. I remember about seven years ago after leaving Norphlet I was doing some substitute teaching in a middle school in nearby El Dorado. I was in the teacher's lounge and noticed almost every teachers mailbox had a bottle of wasp/hornet spray. I asked one of the teachers if they had lots of problems with wasps. She said no, that if there was a shooter on campus the teachers were supposed to spray the insecticide in their eyes.

I guess that's not as bad as that school which was featured in the news handing out a can of soup or vegetables to each of their students. If a shooter showed up the students were supposed to pelt the shooter with the cans.

https://splinternews.com/all-the-most-absurd-proposed-solutions-to-gun-violence-1825023327

They are giving guns to teachers here in Floriduh. I have seen what classes in this state look like and the over stressed look on teachers faces. We also occasionally get video of teachers and administrators snapping and beating kids, or the kids causing violence in classes and having to be arrested by cops. I am sure nothing bad will happen in that over stressed environment with armed teachers and kids all having immediate access to a firearm in class.

Thank you @Forbin for all the injuries and death that will come from this idea.

"What should we do if a shooter shows up?"

"Fight back, of course."

"Okay. With what?"

"With completely ineffective weapons."

I am just waiting to find out that bat kid was a part of the bullying problem of the school. I am waiting to see if bad things come out about a kid who has parents proud as punch their child would love to swing a bat at people. This sounds like a child who has a little bit of a problem with violence.

It is already looking like bullying and stress were factors in what went on. The two students were different according to reports. It does not excuse what they did, but I am thinking some dirty laundry is going to come out about bat kid. Maybe not with the shooters, but with the media promoting him as some sort of heroic idiot and the ability for anyone at the school who he has had problems with to come out and become part of the story, it is only a matter of time.

Yeah, I own a couple dozen. Got another dozen so back in AL from my grandfather but don’t have room for another safe or a way to get them out here so they can stay in the gun house for now.

Not sure what that has to do with me being opposed to the annual slaughter of children at the alter of the 2nd Amendment but I don’t understand the Aztec religion either so....

Not seeing the irony here?

In fairness I've never seen @Forbin as being an idiot, not here or on TBBS (assuming it's the same guy).

I do see him as someone who seems to experience a lot of fear and gains comfort from guns. That, to me at least, is subtly but crucially different to @Paladin who wants to convince us and himself he's in some manner doing a noble deed and defending the free world.

I'm not saying that changes my view of his guns, but it does mean I do feel a certain degree of warmth towards his motivations which genuinely seem to stem from the genuine desire to protect himself and his loved ones rather than some faux macho fantasy.

YMMV

That idea of protection and security from owning a gun is a fantasy. The fantasy is normally put in the male category, but I would say that both genders have fantasies like that. The reality is a gun is a pitiful protection device. Look at all the people who die in war when they are armed. Look at all the police officers who get shot. The reality is that guns are not effective when you are not on alert, and even then they are not a miracle device for saving your ass. If you were really nervous about getting shot you would wear armor like the people who go into situations where there is a very real threat of being shot.

Sure @Forbin is afraid, but fear makes you do dumb things. If a paranoid person is self destructive do you find his paranoia warm and comforting?

please allow me to refresh your memory! In post #7 you said "liberty being the ability to enjoy your hobby to the fullest extent possible with no care about anyone else" implying (or so it seems to me) that people value the 2nd amendment - thus their ability to own guns - above the safety of children. Since you and Forbin and many on this board own a multitude of guns it seems like a contradiction to me. Maybe I am misinterpreting your comment or intent.

Couldn't agree more, it is a dumb thing to do, but I would make a distinction between acting irrationally out of fear and simply not being very bright. Equally both are a different beast to the sort of misplaced fantasy machismo we sometimes see in here, @Captain X being a prominent example. Based purely on my own experience the vast majority of people are essentially useless in a violent situation and the more people boast the more I doubt them, especially online.

Paranoia is absolutely a damaging and dangerous state of mind, but the word I tried to avoid using and swapped out for "warmth" was "sympathy".

You see when someone says "I've got my guns to protect the constitution and the free world, I'm no cuck who lets his wife get raped, I'll get them terrorists, yadda yadda yadda," I shut down and lose interest every bit as much as when I hear people gloat about fights they had over the weekend or how badly they'd hurt someone if XYZ happened. It's the sort of pathetic attempts to impress that we're supposed to grow out of around the time we stop playing with toy cars and pea shooters, like little boys telling each other stories about how they can run faster than a tiger or lift a house.

I hear it all the time from patients we take in from prison, telling each other stories about how they "battered someone" or "dealt with" someone who "gave them grief" or they "had beef with". 95% of the time I've enough information to know they are at the very least exaggerating if not outright lying in order to establish some credibility. The ones who you really have to watch closely are the ones who don't do that. The ones who don't feel the need to make a statement. There are certain people who just have an aura of capability which others naturally sense and are wary around and they usually are the people who say and do little right up until the moment they decide to act.

But I digress. Forbin tends not to boast as far as I can tell. He's honest. He says he knows he's a physically small man and worries about the safety of his family. That strikes a totally different nerve to me. It says this a mature, grown man who wants to take responsibility for those around him but doesn't feel up to the task so looks for ways to keep his loved ones safe because he cares about them, not because he wants to convince you he's Rambo. The gun may be a poor choice, but it's a choice made with positive intentions and that does garner sympathy from me, I just erred away from using that word because it sounds patronising.

That's the gist, yes, I appreciate the understanding (though I obviously disagree it's a poor choice).
I'm actually 194 lbs and 5'10", it's just that I've never been physically strong, or a good fighter.
A childhood of being bullied and beat on led to wanting to make sure I'm able to defend myself and mine against violence. I still mostly think of myself as a skinny little kid worrying about bullies.
Having basically a real-life John Wayne as a father to measure up to was certainly a factor.

So this sixth grader has more balls than US politicians, unwilling to take on our gun problems.

Still not understanding how my owning of firearms has any conflict with wanting them well regulated and less child slaughters.

HA! Small world - I'm 5'10" too. And as we speak I'm going through all my records preparing a job resume. According to my last PT test I took in the Army (at age 43) I was 5'10" and 191 pounds - one pound under the maximum limit for my height and age!
My PT score on that test sucked! 34 pushups....55 sit ups....seventeen minutes for the 2 mile run! I was mentally burned out being the oldest guy in the unit trying to play a young man's game - I knew it was time to ride off into the sunset.

what if that "well regulated" means you can't have yours anymore? Will you "take one for the team" and race down to the gun collection point in solidarity?

In all fairness to Ancalagon, I am certain that he would do anything for "the greater good".

Except punish pregnant grade schoolers with rape babies

(Yeah, you ain't living that shit down, snowflake )

Some steps I’d like to see:

Safety course/testing
Universal Background Checks
An actual searchable records system
Mandatory safe storage and transport
Required liability insurance for firearms

And yes, I would be willing to get tested. I already have my firearms in safes so yeah, with that too. Already have an umbrella insurance policy.