A New Version of Windows is Coming

Based on what's come before, odds are, this release is going to suck.

How much does it cost to rent a chipper-shredder to throw myself into?

If they do this it is a major play for the gaming market.

FTFY.

(Microsoft already has a good share of the console gaming market through Xbox.)

But you'll miss out on this amazing new UI!



And it has Dark Mode! Everybody loves Dark Mode!

I guess the formal launch announcement is happening right now?

Good to see MicroSquish still trying to polish that turd.

https://www.cnet.com/news/windows-11-live-event-everything-microsoft-announced/

Wondering if I should jump on the free upgrade this time. My old Win7 install is getting a bit tired.

I am not sure if users of Win7 can get the free upgrade to Win11.

I just hope it doesn't f-up Windows 365. I've just gotten used to the shit they made of Excel. I have to much work to do to have to work on fixing old spreadsheets.

Maybe.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-7-to-11

That's something.

But in the announcement today all they said was that "Windows 10 users" could get a free upgrade. So, who knows.

I resisted the Win10 upgrade for a couple of years, until work-from-home pretty much required me to be on Win10 to access Agency stuff. My big worry was if MWO would still work properly. I'll probably jump on Win11 with much less angst. Meh.

Yeah, but you can still get a free upgrade from 7 to 10 even now: https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/upgrade-to-windows-10-free

Which version of Windows was it where they screwed up the hardware requirements for it and lots of people discovered that even though their PC was supposed to be able to run the newest version of Windows it really couldn't?
Because it looks like we're getting a repeat of that.

And I have no idea if my main machine is compatible with some of the other requirements. So I'm not going to be rushing to try this.

Windows 11 will require TPM 2.0, or at least TPM 1.2 as a hard minimum, to function properly. If you don't have this, then you won't be able to install Windows 11.

What is TPM? TPM stands for Trusted Platform Module, and is a chip that sits on your motherboard. It is the hardware that checks to make sure your computer hasn't been modified against your wishes. For example, if someone has hacked your system and changed something in your hardware without your permission, TPM would pick up those changes. It's like when you punch in a security key, the system checks to make sure everything is in order, and if it isn't, it won't boot.

Most computers purchased after 2018 won't be an issue for TPM 2.0, and Microsoft has a list of processors that are compatible here: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...pported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors


If you have one of those processors, or just want to know if your PC is compatible, download the Microsoft PC Health Checker: https://aka.ms/GetPCHealthCheckApp


It will tell you if your system will run Windows 11.

I, for example, have an AMD Ryzen 2600 on a GigaByte B450 motherboard. It is completely compatible with TPM 2.0, but I had to enable it by going into my system BIOS, looking under Peripherals, and enabling "AMD TPM." If you know your processor is compatible, and you're getting the message you can't run Windows 11, I recommend doing that first.

If your system doesn't meet the TPM requirements, you can actually buy the module to put on your PC, but knowledge of soldering may be required depending upon your motherboard. Otherwise, you'll have to stick with Windows 10, upgrade the processor, or buy a new PC unless Microsoft lowers the requirements.

If that list is accurate, and they seem to be shifting the requirements, then I don't have the right processor to run it.

Will a gen 4 run it?

Like a Gen 4 Intel processor? Haswell architecture? If it's Haswell architecture, then probably not. A quick look at the list shows that only 8th gen I3/I5/I7 processors will run. So you're looking at 2016/2017 and newer.

For AMD, Ryzen 4th gen will work perfectly fine. That's the newer 2020 processors.

AMD AM3

No shutdown MS-DOS? Then no Weebl.

Yeah, I already checked. My desktop is 2014 vintage 4th gen I3 and runs just fine. We have a new MS Surface Pro that is gathering dust and it's probably faster than the desktop. Ordered a usb-C dock and will try it this weekend with the large monitors the desktop uses.

Sad about the desktop. Acer. Paid $350 for it in 2014. Added an SSD and more memory and it keeps up with anything else I've laid hands on from a normal user perspective. Of course rendering video would bring it to its knees. Best computer ever. Sniff.

Definitely outside the upgrade path. You'd have to upgrade to an AM4+ motherboard, and a compatible AM4 processor (and the RAM to go along with all of it) to install Windows 11. Due to the chip shortage, you're looking at a $350 upgrade, bare minimum, if you do it yourself and with the least required specs.

Yep, and there's honestly no reason for the beefier requirements except to incentivize buying new hardware.

FFFFFFFUUUUU...

Upgrade to win 10 and be happy. MS stopped security updates for Win 7 over a year ago.

You're a virus' wet dream.

Oh, it's worse than that. I have completely borked WMP and the NVidia software indirectly due to the fact that I had to disable Windows updates to stop a problem with my mother board that would prevent it from booting.

l do at least run AVG and NoScript. Not completely raw-dogging the internet.

Looks like I'm good.

I have no great confidence in Microsquash, but I think the Windows 10 to 11 update will go a lot better than the 7 to 8 did. I think the Nadella regime is smarter about such things than the Balmer regime. I do have mission critical software that I plan to wait a bit before taking the plunge to see how things go.

YES!

Sorry, yes. Satya Nadella's a very savvy man, and while I obviously don't agree with every business decision he's made, he's much more adept at handling Windows and all of its idiosyncrasies, of which there are legion. There are a few things I'm excited about with this version of Windows. They're bringing widgets back, though now with better security to prevent another vector for malware, they're also totally removing legacy code from the pre-Windows 7 era, which means no more Windows 95 icon libraries, no more old code (supposedly) still sitting unused. They're revamping the app store completely, which thank god, because that store is a mess on a good day. They're also adding a snap feature, where you can have your windows snap to different parts of the screen and stay there, so that you can, for example, browse the web, watch a video, and work on your budget at the same time, all on one monitor. The other feature I think is really cool is the new option similar to workspaces. When you switch to a different workspace, the system automatically adjusts all of your menus, themes, and performance for that workspace. Switch to your games workspace, and your system settings change for optimal performance.

I'll believe it when I see it, but if it's half of what is promised, the software's going to work better and be much more efficient without all of that old spaghetti sitting inside of it.

I will be downloading it the first day it's released. That way, if you see me shouting "run away! run away!" you'll know to avoid for a while. I've already made a backup image of my entire system should worse come to worse and it crashes everything (I will be doing a full install rather than an upgrade) so, again, if I have a long list of complaints right off the bat, people will know to stay away for a little while.