A suggestion to deal with the mod vs user rift.

Tererune · Dec 6, 2016

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Ok, so software sucks. I cannot argue with that. Thank you for letting us know, and I had an idea about what goes on with the back end but it was not clear to everyone. When things just happen and then people in the group do not see what goes on they start being paranoid and often think the worst.

So if software cannot accomplish the goal perhaps we can come up with a system that allows people to give their input in a more official and visible fashion. Just having things thrashed out in the red room and having a shelter release after the fact does not seem to be working. I think that may just be natural and no one's fault.

Perhaps since some people like to be rule lawyers you could make a room where bannings would be presented and debated for a period of time. Perhaps the software allows for a limited access state for the person who has violated enough to where there is an open forum for intelligent debate about what is going on.

I will use volpone for example. (I may be wrong about who it was, but see the point)

So volpone posts a picture of a black lady hanging. I saw the picture. It is seen by the mods and it trips the software ban by whatever process that is. I am pretty sure that immediate ban could allow for volpone to have access to the court room and just his specific thread there. He can then make his case that he is going to cool off or perhaps say how the ban was unfair. The mods could put up the evidence of what went on. In this case the picture would be moved to the court thread where people who are interested in making a statement about it can do so. Also the severity of the infraction can be argued so as to apply a more customised punishment. In the case of flashlight losing the ability to rep people's postings could have been presented with the overwhelming number of reps given and reasonable people could see why it happened, and also have their voices heard.

If it is a concern that someone is going to spam the argument up with meaningless drivel you could make it so certain court room mods approve postings in the room.

It may seem complicated, but we are not dealing with a huge number of bannings. It would be like moving the shelter to a more public forum, and you could still keep the shelter as it is.

Martin Luther king noted in newsletters from a Birmingham prison that people need to have an outlet for their protests that they feel gets heard. If you do not have that outlet people turn to more extreme ways of getting noticed. The application at the time was the civil rights movement, but it is a philosophy that can be applied in many places.
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Thought about something similar. I think I'd make a pretty good Justice of the SCOWF.

It is, however, the case that WF is a benevolent dictatorship, and that's not to be forgotten.
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This is trumpland now so you should be thinking more along the lines of judge Joe Brown or judge Judy. Spirited intergalactic demigods are probably out of our pay grade. Judy is probably out of our pay grade but perhaps she would loan us one of the hot bench crew she produces, or maybe her husband who substitutes for the bench when one of them has to get Judy her Starbucks.

Order2Chaos · Dec 6, 2016

Faceman said: ↑

The warning matrix used to be publicly posted years ago.
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Is it not still? Can I only see warnings in user profiles because I'm an admin?

Amaris · Dec 6, 2016

Order2Chaos said: ↑

Faceman said: ↑

The warning matrix used to be publicly posted years ago.
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Is it not still? Can I only see warnings in user profiles because I'm an admin?
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Yes. When you're not an Admin, warnings are not visible to everyone. This particular board software doesn't really have a setup for viewing warnings on any kind of public list. Xenforo likes to do everything the hard way. I hate this software.

shootER · Dec 6, 2016

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