Biden’s Border Wall

I thought the border was secure, but Biden is building a wall in Texas for some reason.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna118959

did you even read this?

like to the third line?

Of course, if Biden didn't use the funds for their congressionally designated purpose, he'd be a fascist and a dictator.

Technically, the fifth line. But still....

I'm not sure where this falls on the stupid or trolling continuum.

Was FF too dumb to realize that the story he linked to showed that the Biden Administration was spending money that had been earmarked in 2019 by the Trump administration, and that it's not any form of Gotcha! that the Biden Administration was doing so?

Or was he pure trolling, hoping to provoke reactions like this?

I wondered who would be the first to be complete hypocrites and either down this action as a republican or defend Biden as a Biden Bro.

Yeah, if the wall sucked, which it does, then Biden should not have bothered with this and is deliberately making efforts to see Trump's work is done when he doesn't do shit to do things like re-establish regulations on the rail industry. This was not important to do an executive order on, but there is Biden doing this while whining he could not possibly do an executive order on things that he promised or are worthwhile.

OTOH of course the right was going to complain about their own border wall when Biden is doing this shit specifically to pretend he is bipartisan and get them to givbe him a chance because he is losing big time to trump and thinks this is the way to get voters back.

He did not have to take unilateral action with an executive order to waive federal law to get the job done. Sorry, but he could have just let the law stay in effect and argued against the use of the money in court. Instead he just goes and does this to get a job done he never had to accomplish and promiseds he wouldn't work towards.

Sorry, but yes FF should be happy it was done but is a complete hypocrite for complaining when Biden does it. However, every Biden Bro who makes this lame excuse not recognizing he did this of his own free will and desire to build that wall when he could have stayed asleep and done nothing to help it is also a complete hypocrite for defending him for making things worse by helping to make more of the fail wall.

yeah, i started off with the literal third line which turned out to be a link to the video... "I can't do anything about that.." or some such.

I mean, I get why Biden is letting this follow through... to do otherwise would set a precedent, and for an agency as questionable as DHS that's a clearly slippery slope.

C'mon guys, this seems fairly indefensible.

I get that Congress approved the funds and such, but if Congress approves funds for activities that violate federal law, does a president seriously have no choice but to waive the laws so those funds can be put to use?

Maybe Trump should run for speaker, so he can get federal funding passed for another violent coup attempt against Biden.

Okay then why now?

I'm surprised FF isn't happy about this since he's part of the group so skeered of the brown people coming in.

read your own damn article...

I'm not going to again.

at a guess, the delay in deliberating the consequences of cancelling and the aforementioned additional latitude to DHS long term budgeting. Probably a thousand considerations we wouldn't even know to ask-let alone read the several thousand page involved.

FF: "Our open borders are a disgrace!"

Biden: Builds wall

FF: "What an asshole!"

I tend to agree this is a bad thing to do, but generally yes, new law supersedes old law.

So we should just accept abortion bans and throw women in prison for fascist laws that violate their body autonomy because new law.

This is how you get people who follow orders. You know Trump might be president nest time and when he demands the military act on US citizens you are saying that new law should be followed over the old law that unlawful orders should not be followed even if that means you might get in trouble for not shooting american citizens for Trump.

This sounds like a reasonable position to take when the wall itself is harming the environment and is a bad thing over all. It is all good when Biden does it and you are nothing like the boy when you go completely hypocrite to back the wall when your lord and savior does it.

That precedent shit sailed a long time ago. It was a precedent that should not have been changed when black people were slaves and had no rights according to the right. Ity was a precedent4 that women had the right to abortion up until the religious right infiltrated SCOTUS and threw that out.

Precedent does not work on the right who will not abide by it, and should not be headed when it involves making an environmentally destructive waste of a wall against the laws of the land.

This was a Trump move by sonmeone who promised to be better than Trump and has violated promises to not build the damaging wall, and who put kids in cages because he had no choice. He has a choice, and he chooses to be Trump on the border.

I think the lack of enthusiasm about the travesty is about something like this being the perception:

The wall is not the end of thew world, but the excuses are here to cover the DNC for not replacing him, and to defend him against his critics. This is the Biden problem in a nutshell, and the dem media is out there trying to make an excuse for something they have said is a horrible thing that Trump did, and and now Biden is doing it and they will defend him. Then the middle ground who told everyone Biden will be great is just turning a bliund eye to it like they did to racism, sexism, and anti immigrant hate that has been Biden's MO as a republican infiltratror into the dem party. Biden is a dixiecrat that has not gotten booted from thew party.

Ity was disgusting to watch twice as a much better candidate got cheated out of the dem nomination by the stealth dixiecrat presence in the party. Both Hillary and Biden were all on about superpredators and promoting tough on crime and drug war policies that are directly related to anti-immigrant hate and destroying black wealth and families. When your allies are the ones alienating things like BLM, and destroying brown people immigration while supporting white european christian immigrants then we have a bigger fight than Donald Trump. When Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are more your enemy than Trump policy, then we are never going to get better.

Everyone knew FF would do this when Biden supported the wall. However, we have a bunch of people who have claimed the horrors of the wall, and now they are trying to excuse this. FF farmer is not the person to be opening his mouth against Biden because he wants the wall. The wall was a waste in my mind and a lot of other people around here. If Biden knocked down some of the harmful wall it would have been good. If he even just slept like he does when the reps win, then that would have been good. Instead he suspended laws to get the wall done.

The DNC is working against challengers to biden and our only hope is he does a fucking feinstein and maybe we might get a little buttgag instead. It is all just pathetic. Where the fuck is that gretta girl? We should have a thunderdome match between her and sleepy joe.

That feels... I guess it wouldn't be unconstitutional, but the idea that you can get around a law simply by approving the funding of something that violates that law is fucked up.

even moire fucked up is people are not automatically bothered by this. What excuses suspending existing laws to spend this money? That the news did not lose their everloving shit about this is a sign they are covering up for Biden. Biden suspended laws preventing trump's wall to build trump's wall and the left is trying to justify it rather than asking him why he would do a fucking crazy thing like that.

It’s all the same law. Treaties & Constitution > statute > regulation. There’s no tiers within statute, I don’t think.

Wait, so what you're telling me is that this isn't a case of Biden mistakenly moving to the right on an issue because he thinks that'll help him win Republican votes next year, but like the US leaving Afghanistan, something that Trump did and Biden's got to clean up the mess the best he can. I'm shocked!

Could you perhaps explain that with a little more nuance because what you are meaning is very unclear and does not make logical sense in the context you seem to be using it in. Sometimes you need a little more than a tweet level response to participate with the adult conversation. Don't be a the boy.

That is actually not the case. Biden could have very well left this shit alone and done nothing as there is no requirement for him to take any action.

Please do explain where it says Biden had to do this and needed to do it now. He could have let the money sit until another administration or budget decided to use it for something else. There was no demanded timeline. There was no reason he had to act. Even Afganistan had a reason to act or change course based on change over time and necessity.

Do explain how building this wall will help the immigration crisis in any way whatsoever.

If you wish to defend Biden as a Biden Bro I would love to hear you do so. Come on lefty federal farmer. We are waiting.

I am really interested in the explanation from the Biden bros because let us say congress and the president earmark some money for planned parenthood and organizations like that. Do we really think that a republican president would suspend federal laws to make sure that money went to help planned parenthood? Or would they go to court if it violated law and say they would not spend the money because it violated the law and throw it away even if there was precedent set by biden in this area?

There is no chance republicans would do this for a dem expenditure. They would be roasted by their base for even considering it. If donald Trump gets elected again and he spends money giving gender affirming care earmarked for military people by congress and biden they would shoot him. That would actually be something that makes his base turn on him IMO.

So setting a precedent means absolutely nothing because the republicans would never follow precedent.

The only reason to do this is this is Biden pretending his hands are tied because he wants to do something about the hispanic immigrants coming in the country. He wants an imposing wall to say fuck off to them. He barely is fighting against razor wired floating balls designed to cut and drown people crossing the rio grand because he secretly wants them stopped. It is all a lie that he wants to do something for people in south american countries to help them out. He doesn't even want the cheapo labor. He won't even make some new openings to legitimate immigrants to come in and legally establish themselves. He wants to build a wall that will harm the environment and hurt people trying to cross the border to punish them for trying. That is all this wall will do is injure and kill a couple of people trying to cross by making it harder.

Your can tell a republican because the cruelty is the point, and here we see the cruelty is the point with biden. He hasn't changed, and he is still racist and hates poor immigrants.

well, it's to be under 20 miles long, and seems to be in the middle of buttfucck, nowhere.

While I see where you're comingn from on skirting other laws to fulfill this one, I'm also liking that it stands as a monument of ineffectiveness and think they should engrave Trump's name and silhouette on it as a reminder to Americans just how humiliating those years should be.

Considering the laws that had to be waived to allow it to be built, I'm guessing it'll also do not inconsiderable damage to that part of the planet. Since the endangered species act was on the list, I'm guessing it'll fuck up some animal habitats at the very least.

You're right, he shouldn't build it.

yeah, the region does have a couple of wildlife preserves marked.

what I'm finding interesting is that there seems to be a different town/village every mile along the border. For being so anti government, Texans sure do have a lot of local ones.

President sets priorities for agencies. Biden owns this.

> “As I have stated often, over thousands of years, there are only two things that have consistently worked, wheels, and walls!” Trump wrote.




> “CBP remains committed to protecting the nation’s cultural and natural resources and will implement sound environmental practices as part of the project covered by this waiver,” the spokesperson said.


"We will provide several trash receptacles for workers to dispose of cigarettes and food wrappers. Also we won't dump any toxic waste improperly unless we find sound economic reasons for doing so."