Bill Richardson endorses Obama, double chocolate cake.

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  1. ehrie

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    Discuss. :corn:
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    marathon Calm Down, Europe...

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    I think we might be on the verge of an endgame here, where he's the first of a triad (the others being Al Gore and John Edwards) of endorsements that close ranks around Obama so that Democrats can put this nightmare phase to rest.
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    With Hillary up 15 to 20 points in PA and West Viriginia depending on the poll, I don't see a way she drops out until then.
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    marathon Calm Down, Europe...

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    I never said she'd oblige. Certainly Republicans don't want her too.

    There are Republicans changing their registration in Pennsylvania to vote in their closed primary.

    To paraphrase Weyoun: Republicans...so predictably treacherous.
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    Not to hijack my own thread, but I sure do wish that one of the humanoid cylons in BSG was played by him. He plays such a good antagonist in those settings.
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    He's juts looking for a job as VP.

    Anyways an interesting poll is out according to Drudge. Whichever candidate wins loses the 20% of the others voters to McCain.

    It seems to be a trend that Democrats are hell bent on losing. :P
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    Don't believe those, remember all the similar polls when McCain wrapped up the nomination that said as much as 30% of the Republicans would instead vote for Hillary or Obama? It took barely a month for the vast majority of those people to fall into line. The same thing will happen with Democrats.
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    Oh I know that. It's just fun to tweak the lefties here.

    Of course if Hillary causes riots in Denver and around the country when she steals the nomination don't be surprised when large numbers of Democrats stay home instead of voting.

    :D
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    Well, it may or may not come to pass, but its hard to compare the two.

    Republicans just had a deep distaste for McCain that is slowly eroding (largely because they are now free to focus on just that).

    The Democrat rift has risen to near civil war, and it isn't over. If you look at the blogs, that 20% figure seems low.
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    And with Florida and Michigan revotes not happening and their delegates not being seated according to the original votes unless that makes no difference, and with North Carolina balancing out PA, Clinton's not going to edge more than a couple of dozen pledged delegates closer to Obama, even under her best case scenarios.

    Clinton may or may not drop out--if I had to guess now I'd guess that she'll suspend her campaign without dropping out and releasing her delegates after North Carolina or West Virginia, or, if she's feeling really ornery, right after the last primaries on June 3--but she's not going to win unless news breaks that makes Obama lose, and it would have to be news much worse than the absurd Wright silliness.
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    The complicating factor for Obama is that because of the recent Wright uproar, there are a lot of people in states that have already voted that wish they could take their vote back.

    If nominated, he'll have to win them again by November somehow..or they could go to either McCain or no one.
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  12. Ward

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    Convention fight!! Woo-hoo!!

    Seriously now, with Obama promising to be the "change" candidate and taking into consideration his lack of experience, just who can he choose? Richardson is MORE qualified than he is to be at the top of the ticket so choosing him would just make Obama look bad in comparison. Besides, Richardson is pretty much establishment which is what Obama is supposed to be running against.

    Same thing with Hillary except she's trying to paint herself as the experienced candidate.

    I'm liking this just the way it's going. :)
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    This is a good thing. There is nothing better than a Democrat like Bill Richardson endorsing a racist loving individual like Barack Hussein Obama. Obama will be a great President. He will make sure that blacks are given preferential treatment no matter the cost while at the same time expanding the government wherever possible while of course never forgetting to find new and creative means for taxing the populace of this nation to fund the ever expanding power and authority of the US federal government has over the little people of this country who "need" big brother government looking out for them.
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    With the decrease in poll ratings for Obama that has resulted from his support of racists in this country and his lead in the delegate count, this thing will go the distance the year. Come August the DNC will have exhausted their campaign funds just in time for their Presidential nominee to begin campaigning against McCain.

    It will be fun to watch.
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    It's amazing how fear can make people turn into blithering idiots.

    :rolleyes:
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    If Richardson would have bestowed his endorsement before Texas, Obama would have won both the primary and the caucus, and this would be done already.
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    Not gonna happen. The superdelegates will almost certainly put Obama well over the top without any sort of a fight. After the Democratic primaries are over there are three months until the Republican convention, three months in which it will be driven home in ads across the country that McCain is the candidate of four more years. Three months in which even more Republican incumbents will announce their fleeing of the party and lack of faith in its continued direction via retirement. You're more likely to see a floor fight at the Republican convention when people who've suddenly decided to declare that McCain isn't the devil just because he's the party nominee realize that their first impression was right and that McCain is, personalitywise (and policywise too), a Bush/Giuliani crossbreed who really won't wear well over the course of a general election campaign (which will be an easy result to achieve if only the Democrats can manage to coax the press off of McCain's cock long enough to get them to do their jobs, a tougher matter than it sounds considering the press's superglued liplock on McCain's genitals). A Republican floor fight isn't at all likely either, but there's really a lot more reason for one to happen.

    None of which is to say that the Democratic convention will be a cuddlefest, and I expect Clinton to give a speech that nominally supports Obama but strongly undercuts him on a lot of issues. But a floor fight just isn't in the cards.
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    What fear do you perceive?

    I know that for some reality is a tough thing to accept. At this point, I think there are a fair number of folks who are in denial about Obama and the reality of his life and the people he chooses to call friends, spiritual leaders/advisors.

    But, looking at some of the recent national polls on him his numbers aren't fairing as well as they did prior to the realization of his affiliations with racists.
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    Not here, but elsewhere online, there's been a lot of Democrats calling for superdelegates to vote according to the popular vote in their constituency. Of course, they were all saying that when Clinton had a majority of superdelegate support, while Obama had a more of the popular vote. With Richardson endorsing Obama despite his state going to Clinton, I wonder how they'll spin this at DU and DK. Probably "Well he was a candidate so he should get to support whoever he likes".
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    So the smear campaign against him worked to a certain extent. Now the question remains -- was it the Hillary or the repugs that were behind it?
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    Meh, one the news is more widespread that Rev. Wright was a guest of the Clinton White House in 1998 (and no, it doesn't matter how tenuous the link), it will stop hurting Obama... at least any more than it hurts Clinton.

    "Say what you will about McCain, but he's not racist, at least not politically incorrectly" a lot of folks are going to think,
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    Smear campaign? So are you trying to say that Jeremiah Wright isn't a racist and hate monger? Are you going to claim that Jeremiah Wright doesn't spend time preaching hate from his pulpit? Is it a smear saying that Obama has been a member of Wrights church for 20 years? Is it a smear to question Obama and his affiliation and continued affiliation with this church. A church that has awarded and supported a racist like Farrakhan?

    A smear would entail promoting false information about someone. Please identify the falsehoods that have been made against Barack Hussein Obama please.
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    Republicans generally aren't geared for a fight at their convention. Their primary system is designed to produce a clear winner and not give extraordinary power to a chosen few. It's going to be hiilaryous when/if Clinton wins the popular vote but loses the nomination to Obama anyway. We'll see another set of twists and spins from the Dems explaining how it's really OK for them to do what they condemn in others. At least among those who aren't completely fed up with the whole thing and sit out the whole thing.

    McCain's absolutely not getting the free pass from the press he did when he ran against GWB. If anything, the Dems in-fighting is getting them far more press than items of more substance like McCain's foreign trip this past week. He's the one acting and looking presidential while the Dems are still fighting over - what? Who's the most DIS-advantaged of their two candidates? It's nonsense from either one of them so it's hardly worthy of serious attention.
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    I don't think it's fear. I think Kirk is just excited to have a new "script" to attack the Democrats with. :bergman:

    Sounds to me like Bush and Cheney in 2000. That's not a slam against either of them, that's just me poining out that a less experienced "anti-establishment" candidate choosing a far more experienced "establishment" running mate has been done before, with great success. :shrug:
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    In a perfect world, Richardson would've been fighting a bad cold when he announced this. And O'Bama would've actually been Irish.

    'Cause then the headline could've been "Sick Spic Picks Slick Mick". :techman:
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    But that's just the thing. Bush was a popular two-term governor and not a Washington insider. But he also had executive level experience in a large state. Cheney had more Washington experience so his choice was a good complement to Bush.
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    That's a 72 word sentence. Did you burst an artery when you hammered it in? Does it make you mad to think about all the atrocities Obama will commit? Does it make you really mad?

    Yes?

    Then take a gun and go for a stroll thru airport security.
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    The reaction from the right has been fascinating towards Obama. First you guys say that him being a member of that church was a cover to hide his muslim past, and now you're shitting bricks because the church is run by a xenophobic preacher.

    I'd hardly say that his church is a cover if he'd stay there and yet it's so politically damaging.
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    Drat that K1A. Mimicking liberals. Next he'll be spouting run-ons about the audacity of hope or something.
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    Its politically damaging(and should be)....because the church promotes racism and hatred.

    Obama supports that with his own money, and has for the past 20 years.
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