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Discussion in 'Shelter Releases' started by Bailey, Oct 1, 2013.

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  1. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    I haven't posted this out in the general forum because I don't want to draw attention to it, but the Blue Room is currently visible to unregistered users.
  2. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Thanks for the heads up. For the moment I've hidden it. I don't see the Blue Bloggers usergroup anymore. Anyone want to take on setting it up and putting Blue Room members (start with people you know have access now, add people who ask) as their project?
  3. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    I'm just about to head off to work, so I can't do it today.
  4. The Exception

    The Exception The One Who Will Be Administrator Super Moderator

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    I think given that joinable usergroups is no longer a default built in option, we should just have the Blue Room open to all members, and then if people abuse it they should be removed on an individual basis, rather than it being opt-in.
  5. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    I prefer opt-in, because if people Don't know it's there, they are less likely to make "accidental" use of it.
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  6. The Exception

    The Exception The One Who Will Be Administrator Super Moderator

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    Keep in mind in order to do so we have to install more add-ons.
  7. Bickendan

    Bickendan Custom Title Administrator Faceless Mook Writer

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    That may be a bullet we may have to bite for this one.
  8. foil1212

    foil1212 Jose "Mom Fan" Alvarez Staff Member Moderator

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    That's a bad idea. I think it needs to be hidden from search engine results and anyone who happens upon this place. There's a lot of private stuff that's been said in there under the assumption that it would stay private.
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  9. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Unregistered members (and I'm assuming search engines fall in that category) cannot see the Blue Room.
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    The Exception The One Who Will Be Administrator Super Moderator

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    Correct, search engines would not see it.
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    foil1212 Jose "Mom Fan" Alvarez Staff Member Moderator

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    So only registered members would be able to see the blue room, but they wouldn't need to opt in once they're a member? If that's the case then I misunderstood.
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    The Exception The One Who Will Be Administrator Super Moderator

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    Correct, which is how the Blue Room was originally. Then we added a layer of complexity by making it opt-in only, presumably due to someone taking advantage of personal information or some such. With us being able to set forum permissions at an individual level, there's no reason to do it the old way, if someone abuses personal info, then their access to the Blue Room will just be removed.

    Sound fair?
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  13. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Sounds good to me.
  14. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Sounds like a good setup.
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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Yeah, sounds good. I had the same concerns as Foil, but if it's search proof and anonymous lurker proof, I think that's sufficient.
  16. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    By the way, we've talked about live transparency for The Shelter. I need to think through the mechanics a bit more, but this thread seems ready for release. Any objections?
  17. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    I don't see anything that shouldn't be made public. The only reason I posted it in here was because making it a public read might have led to people trying to play rules shenanigans by saying that since its publicly available it should all be fair game.
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    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Rules shenanigans? Why, whatever do you mean, Bailey? No-one ever tried that on the old board. :diacanu:
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    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

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    This seems settled. I'm going to release it if no one has any objections.
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