California residents...legalize it

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  1. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    It's not the first time; you're just getting absent-minded. :P

    I've always been a proponent of abolishing laws against victimless crimes. :shrug:
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  2. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    Check Canadian penalties for DUI.

    People do time for it here.

  3. Dinner

    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    1. I don't know a time frame but I do believe that once it passes in California then we'll see other blue western states doing the same. My money is on Oregon being the second.

    2. The DEA chief has already said he will stop the raids on states which offer legal medical MJ dispensaries and I honestly don't see them raiding legal tax paying businesses which are protected by state law either. Of course some puritanical right winger could become President some time in the future but the longer legal and safe and taxed MJ is out there the harder it will be for them to dig up the old lies to justify their oppression.

    3. You're right, the medical MJ places do make a killing right now but in California if you have a state issued license (which cost about $200 per year) to go with your doctor's prescription then you are currently allowed to grow up to 20 plants per year in your home or residence. That means lots of people just grow their own. With legalization I expect there will be more competition and that will mean prices coming down while quality goes up. The free market at work.

    4. California has no dry counties. The whole thing is dealt with at the state level and either something is legal or illegal but individual counties have no right to outlaw commerce commerce the state has legalized (such as alcohol, tobacco, MJ, etc..). Now counties can put "necessary and prudent" regulations on trade but they can't outlaw it as that would contradict state law and the courts have actively knocked down county regulations deemed to restrictive or in violation of state law.
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    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    The next thing I'd like to see is a legalization push for people to distill their own moonshine. In the 1980's the Feds made it legal for people to start brewing their own beer at home and the result was a whole generation of dedicated home brewers who learned their craft at home and then later started up microbreweries which have becomes big business. In addition these microbreweries have improved both the quality and selection of American beer; in the 1970's there were just a few dozen breweries in the US and just about all of them put out a nearly identical low quality industrial product where as now we have beer in dozens of different types and styles giving consumers real choices.

    Moon shining remains illegal though. I suspect that if we legalized home distilling of small quantities of liquor then we would see an explosion of small businesses dealing with the manufacture of whiskey, brandy, and what not just like we saw an explosion of small businesses making beer after home brewing was legalized. This would be very good for communities across the country to have local craftsmen making quality local products and some of these small businesses will eventually grow into big businesses providing employment and taxes to support communities across the country.
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    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    While we're at it Federal meat slaughtering laws are set up to favor big business and make it cost prohibitive for small businesses to get started up. It used to be every town and city in the country had a host of local meat producers making a wide range of products for the local market as well as the big national brands everyone sees in every super market. How ever the regulations are set up to virtually outlaw small producers and that's a frigging crime as there are ways health standards can be maintained even while offering consumers choices beyond the industrial mass market crap which is shipped to all 50 states. Here's a great link on "The Charcuterie Underground" and how over regulation is killing what could be a huge small business opportunity in America.

    http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicag...rers-and-sausage-grinders/Content?oid=1241681
  6. Will Power

    Will Power If you only knew the irony of my name.

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    Legalize marijuana coast to coast. Marijuana should be legal in the same ways alcoholic beverages & cigarettes are.