Calls for removing royal title from Meghan

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  1. Jenee

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    As someone whose tax dollars support the Royal Family, I believe both Meghan and Harry should shut the fuck up.

    Americans may have an opinion on the matter, but only Commonwealth nations actually have skin in this game.
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  4. Jenee

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    Skin in what game? The article I linked to, Peirs was upset that Markle commented on US politics. She’s a US citizen. She has every right to do so.
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    I don't disagree with what Meghan Markle is saying but Piers Morgan also isn't wrong. The fact that Meghan is an American citizen is irrelevant; much like diplomats, it is bad form for members of the Royal Family to comment on politics of other countries.

    Unless Meghan completely renounces her royal title and duties, she should fuck the up about American politics.

    The UK, Canada and other Commonwealth nations have "skin the game" because we pay for the Royal Family's lifestyle.
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    It doesn't seem like that's strictly accurate. It seems that unless Harry and Meghan are actually staying in Canada (they are not) or doing "official Royal family stuff" in Canada (again, they are not), then you (as a Canadian) don't seem to be paying anything to them or for them in the form of taxes.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20080619203100/http://www.monarchist.ca/new/docs/costofcrown.html
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    American churches get tax exemption for remaining politically neutral, yet that never fucking happens either, and I'd say that's a bigger issue than Megan.
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    Can't argue with that.

    But I've been saying all along that churches should be taxed.
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    When they disown Randy Andy I'll pay attention. "Stepping back from official duties" is bullshit. :garamet:
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    It’s my understanding that as they’ve stepped down from performing royal duties, that they weren’t receiving a striped any longer. So the only issue is the title. And since most Brits I know put little stock in the royal family anyway, I don’t see the issue with allowing her to keep the title.
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    Randy Andy shows the downside of a life of royal privilege. Too little is required of such a person. Kind of like Paris Hilton. Warren Buffett suggests giving your children enough money to do anything they want, but not so much that they don't have to do anything. I give Meghan and Harry credit for at least seeming to want to do more with their lives than just living it up. Of course, on the other hand you have Charles who lives his whole life going about the business of being the Heir to the Throne and that strikes me as a miserable existence. But even Charles has tried to find meaning with the Prince's Trust and his efforts to help develop impoverished areas of Scotland. Overall, the whole royalty bit just doesn't generate strong emotions in me one way or another. Even if the U.K. abolished the monarchy it would need a ceremonial Head of State and I'm not sure an elected President would do the job that much better or cost that much less. :clyde:
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    Is there any purpose to this markle woman aside from being some living mannequin for clothing designers? At least she is in the news for something other than what shoes she wore.

    I give the attention whoring 5 kanyes out of 10. Do better UK.
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    I’m not much of a ... what do you call those people who follows the royals? But, I saw this article on my news feed this morning and wondered why the big deal. Also, to defend her American rights.
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    The only person on my FB feed who gives a shit about this nonsense is Beck. And he's.....well, Beck :marathon: :shrug:
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    The musician?
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    The poster.

    Yanno, this @Beck :zod:
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    Because he’s a loser, baby. Why don’t we kill him?
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    I need to check our mutuals to make sure that I'm not actually friends with that piece of garbage. Royalty is something that should have disappeared with Cromwell at the latest. Props to Meghan for figuring out that there's things in life better than being a broodmare. Now if the rest of them would figure this out (and yes, I'm including the royals from places like Russia, Italy, Germany, etc.).
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    But it’s to spend more time with children.
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    get crazy with the cheez-whiz?
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    That's a half hour down a rabbit hole I'll never get back. lol. I don't think I ever knew the full lyrics to that song. But now ... I guess someone on Reddit(?) completely deciphered the song ...

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    Interest in the royal family can be minor precisely because they don't matter much in day to day life. One reason that is the case is that the monarchy acts outside politics.

    A member of the royal family taking political sides is distasteful in a similar way to the reaction you'd see if a US Supreme Court Justice appeared as a speaker at the RNC or DNC.
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    But did Meghan Markle "take sides" though?
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    Yup, by the standards the royals are usually held to.

    edit: That isn't to say that it's enough to strip her title, far from it, but it is the type of things that can't be encouraged as repeat behaviour.
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    Figuratively holding one's nose whilst glad-handing scumbags is something I'm sure those born into the Royal Family learn quite early. It may not have been included in Meghan's eduction.
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    I get that. I said so in my OP. But they are no longer performing duties for the monarchy.
    Harry is now 5th in line to the throne. Short of some horrific act of God, he will never ascend.
    and she is an American citizen. She has a right (if not a duty) to express her political views on American politics.
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    Sure, she has a right. But as I pointed out re: diplomats and @Bailey's example of a supreme court justice, you can't always just throw your political views around without consequences.

    As I also said before, the fact that she is an American citizen is irrelevant to the conversation. By marrying the Duke of Sussex and joining the House of Windsor, Meghan Markle now has obligations that supersede her "rights". They may not be performing their royal duties, but unless they renounce their titles and claim to the throne (albeit unlikely, as you pointed out) they are bound by royal protocol.
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    Fair enough. I just think ... well, I think the entire world is affected by having trump in office. His "foreign policy" has been disastrous worldwide.

    Maybe it is time leaders of other governments started speaking out.
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    They have, quite regularly. Problem is, Trump's base see those countries as soft, socialist hellholes that leech off the US' teat.
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