Can Kids Consent to Hormone Blockers?

Rent free in the head kinda thing, just like I thought

Honestly, people need to stop replying to Tererun. It's the equivalent of responding to a spam/scam email.

I'm starting to think the same for OF and FF. Not that they respond with a wall of text, just that they dislike having to say why they think the way they think. They don't actually want to engage in discussion, they just want to state their opinion and everyone else is supposed ... I don't know ... agree? marvel at it's ... complete lack of anything involving reality? whatever it is, you absolutely cannot request clarification or you'll get insults thrown back.

The ultimate tldr account

Screechy cause-heads eating each other. Everybody wins!

Thanks for letting me know I got to you again. I will put it on the collection.

So is @Tererun pretending to be a trans person as part of his "master trolling" routine a bannable offense or what?

OF for sure is not worth responding to. FF at least puts forth effort and seems to usually be arguing/posting in good faith, even if I disagree with him on things.

Associating a trans person needing to go to a shelter with a cis man trying to find victims is insulting. It is also insulting to imply it is ok to just cut trans people off out of fear of cis men being willing to dress as women to get access to shelters is also shitting on the trans community. Sorry karen, but your shit stinks. I am letting you know because you might want to think about it before you spout that shit in front of some trans person who you do not want to offend. There are ways of saying things so you don't shit on people. I know you have been entitled for a long time and have not had to worry about your words and how they effect others, but we are tired of it karen. I get I hurt your feelings, but it is the same level of not giving a fuck that you have towards me and the trans community.

Why should I feel guilty about hurting your feelings when you come in here and carelessly hurt mine with your ignorant bigotry? You were nbot amiable to begin with, and now you are blaming me for being pissed at you being inconsiderate and offensive. What if I said let us get rid of karens because that would end all the rapes in the world? Let us not put the blame on rapey men and talk about what to do about them. Let us say trans people around women are the problem because a rapist might disguise themselves as a trans person to get access to women.

Really, after that display why is it that I would fucking care that such an inconsiderate person isn't going to be my friend? Is there some great awesome of being friends with karen? I think not. Seems to me you are casual with respect to others and you cannot accept criticism.

Hope you do better next time, and sorry about not karen about your feelings like you did not karen about mine.

Fucking karens.

Still trying to make friends by white knighting I see. Don't you have some reps to give me? Just sayin, get back to work.

A lot of Karens in Tererun's post.
You could say she's....Karen too much.


Booooo!! Fuckin' booooo!!!!

*Runs away making Daffy Duck noises*

I thought the same of FF. But, recently, he has decided my questions for clarification are "dumb". But ... YMMV.

Good continuation on the pun.

I know it may be confusing, but I can admit when my opponents get in a good one. Some people are like that.

I only acknowledge my opponents getting in a good one if the good one is clever.

@Tererun you’re fitting the Karen trope more than I am
I bet you have the haircut too.

You’re missing Demiurge’s point here. He’s talking about male-presenting but female-self-IDing to the guards/receptionists.

I suspect that concern is overblown, in part because many abusers are so full of toxic masculinity they wouldn’t even consider lying to say they’re a woman to accomplish their goals. The real psychopaths would though, and they do exist, so this is not entirely meritless.

That said,

is a legitimate argument. It seems significantly likelier that someone in need would be turned away under Demiurge’s system than an abuser admitted under Tererun’s. But it’s hardly a black and white issue.

And that is the problem with most things these days. Every idea to fix a problem will have some problem, some issue that cannot be resolved. So instead, people completely discount any resolution because it's not perfect.

We need to stop doing this.

It is interesting that the whole idea of transitioning is something that causes so many problems, but not doing it to your specific level really ends up being more harmful to the trans person.

Most things are pretty much polarised now, it's a real shame. Nuance is lost because it's easier to go with a side than work with the opposition to make things generally better. Echo chambers online don't help.

I speak my mind all of the time. What is it that you want clarification about?

Kids should be allowed to be who they are. Parents should not be telling their children who they should be.

A child born with a penis wants to wear dresses and play with dolls - who cares? And why would a parent wish to change that - unless they are more worried about what others think than how their child feels.

A child born with a vagina wants to play sports and eschews all forms of dresses/skirts/etc. let her.

If either child between the ages of 2 and 10 consistently requests to be referred to as the opposite gender, then, then, the parents can/should consult with the child's pediatrician and discuss any possibility of puberty blockers.

Everyone else can fuck off. Why would you even care?

this is true.

2? Jesus Christ. I have a 2.5 year old, he can't even pronounce "dinosaur" correctly let alone grasp the concept of gender even when it relates to himself

Don't be stupid

Kids are different. My older son, beginning at two years old, absolutely refused to wear anything with camouflage - which was big back in the 80s for kids fashion. He still won't wear anything with camouflage. Not every kid will have the same specific like/dislike. But, I bet your 2.5 year old has certain preferences - whether it's food, clothes, toys, whatever. That's all I meant. I'm absolutely certain no 2 year old is going to say "I have gender dysphoria so I'm gonna need gender reassignment surgery".

So, take your own advise and don't be stupid.

How many children go on to fully transition after having puberty blockers? I wouldn't know where to even find that kind of info (and I've been warned of unreliable sources so don't want to make another faux pas)

You literally just gave an age range, beginning with 2 years old, and said if that age range constantly requests to be referred to as the opposite gender then the parents should start consulting with a doctor and start discussing puberty blockers

This is an utterly preposterous and irresponsible thing to believe in regards to a 2 year old child

"Advice"

If that was addressed to me, just so you and everyone else knows, I'm bowing out of this discussion. Clearly I was over my head and I'm never having kids anyway. I have my opinion and I voted no to the OP. I'll leave it at that.

Your kid will never get into the right college prep pre-schools with that sort of attitude.

Yea. I gave an age "range". The point is consistency. Not any specific age.

It was the tons of stories of parents with pre-school aged trans children that changed my mind of this just being a "preference"

I've mentioned before how my cis brother at 4 years old nearly cut off his own hair in '94 because he thought it was too girlish and no one was speaking about gender in any meaningful way back then.

David Reimer knew he was a boy despite the quack advice given to his parents to present otherwise in the 60s.

This ain't new, guy.