Can someone explain why I am supposed to hate Louis CK now?

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  1. oldfella1962

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    wow folks! Thanks for all these awesome mental images when I'm eating my dinner. :brood:
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    According to Tererun he has no "dick"(penis).
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    no, Tererun has a dick but is not proud of the fact. Try to keep up! I'm sure a "power bottom" discussion is soon to follow.
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    But you’re already a gremlin.
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    do you turn into a gremlin? Do you have an early morning blood test? I'm eating about when I normally do. I am hungry because I skipped lunch today (calorie management) but I'm still not having seconds, except on the salad. Did you ever notice how baby spinach tastes a lot like the clover with the yellow flowers?
    Well maybe not that sweet, bit it still tastes similar.
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    HA! You beat me by about one minute. You folks are ON POINT today with the jokes.
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    Yeah, totally predatory. At least Weinstein seemed to harass actresses at various levels of fame. C.K. deliberately targeted barely known female comedians who couldn't possibly challenge him.

    Still, I'm less mad at Louie than I am at people like Jon Stewart that protected him and attacked anyone that tried to bring up these rumours for years. :shrug:
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    Must be strange. The people who defined your basis of cognition were nothing more than braindead deviants.
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  14. Dayton Kitchens

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    I never said anything recently about evolution from what I recall.
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    Louis CK masturbating in front of women is a really weird hill to die on dude.

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    awesome! So-so aim but not bad considering the distance.
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    It is wrong, but it can be a bit thrilling. Just use your own material and don't stare at someone real while pulling your meat. Oh and clean up if you make a mess. Someone has to sit in that seat again. Oh, and no one wants to see that so if you get caught then you have done it wrong.
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    Ok, I guess I must be a bit odd. I am friends with people who make fursuits to have sex in because they have fetishes. I grew up working in a porn store my dad owned. I am into bdsm things. I have been to gay campgrounds where you don't want to wander along the trains at night unless you want to get involved in some group sex. It is a consenting adults, and it is in private places where you have warnings about what you are getting into.

    So I do not think a crotch grab is incredibly bad. I get it has its place in select areas and it is not for everyone. I know people who like to watch others have sex or masturbate. Asking is hard, but you have to do it.

    Sometimes people explore and get scared or bothered by what they see. Yes, you do not want to cause a person discomfort or pain they did not agree to or desire. So when a person experiments and goes out of their comfort zone you have to understand that can happen and it is not rape if they knowingly attempted to try that. If Louis CK asked me to watch him masturbate I might just do it knowing it gets him off. I would even try to look interested and play into it. I am not particularly aroused by it, but I could fake it if it was good for him. What is the big deal? I might ask him if his wife would mind, and he probably should express a desire to not talk about it because I might tell the story. I can understand he might not want everyone to know his kinks.

    I don't know, some people may need to get over a bit of their prejudice regarding certain sexual desires. If I like Louis asks i going to get intimate with him because he asked me to, not that he barged in and trapped me or threatened my career, I would want him to get off and have a good time. If jerking off while I stare at him makes him hot and excited ok.
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    If he was using his position of power to coerce any form of sex that is not good. I can get that some people may have felt that way, and he may have just thought it was a perk of being famous. I can also understand saying keep this shit private because people are going to not understand it is just being kinky and different. People can be really judgemental about things that are really not their business. Covering it up so his wife doesn't find out is breaking their trust so if Louis ever asks me to commit to a monogamous relationship I would probably decline knowing he lies and cheats on his wife. But the stuff he says in his routine lets me know I might be offended by his thoughts. I was not actually shocked to learn about it, but I know some people are.

    I am actually looking forward to his new comedy now that he can be open about liking to watch people masturbate. He might make some funny jokes about it as long as he stops lying and using his position to make women feel it will benefit their career then it is a good.
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    He was using his position of power to coerce colleagues into participating in his sexual fetish. That he forced them to watch him instead of blow him doesn't change the fact that he used them for sexual gratification. :shrug:
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    No one is saying certain acts are worse than others. We're saying the general pattern of people (usually men, but I'm sure some women exist too) using their power to all but force a yes outta the other person for any sexual act is wrong. Period, full stop. Being sex positive and open-minded doesn' mean telling others that they'e babies for not wanting to engage in a certain act, especially in a work environment.
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    Exactly. I don't hate Louis CK for the initial act because I genuinely believe him when he says he thought it was all above board. The way he later recognized the issue but still publicly called the accusations lies is a much bigger concern.

    Problem about being in a position of power is that people find it very difficult to see the power dynamic from others perspective. Where I work we have adult aged students and we have strict rules about not getting into compromising situations with them. Not because it's illegal, but because even if a staff member thinks they are operating in a fair and equal way that unequal power dynamic will still be there and what one party thinks is fully consensual could involve perceived pressure by the other party.
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    Ok, I have finally heard an explanation which explains why we have a need to fully break this sort of behavior and it leads down a path of further sexual discrimination and supports that system when we do not fully stop it in its tracks. The explanation came from a TYT discussion which might enlighten others who are so confused so I will link it. For those who do not want to watch I will explain.

    The fact is that Louis used his power to control the ways women come up in the industry even if he had consent. Basically because he was asking it normalised that behavior which is not a choice they felt free to say no to, and because of that pressure his kink was pressured on women. Women do not feel free to say no or to avoid these kinks because of the way society is, and we need to pry off that oppression and make it go away in a public fashion in order to change the attitudes of society in general.

    So bad Louis you contributed to the overwhelming oppression of women and we need to be loud and firm that this cannot happen and is inappropriate so get your ass in gear and cut the bullshit. I only wanted to expose that reason as it was not fully clear to me. Oh, and don't cheat on your family. Be honest about things with them.

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    This is what people have been telling you the whole thread.
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    But I guess a man needed to say it before she finally got it. Typical :rolleyes:
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