Can someone please assure me this nutbar has no hope of getting the nomination?

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Reno Floyd, Aug 2, 2007.

  1. Reno Floyd

    Reno Floyd shameless bounder

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2004
    Messages:
    3,423
    Location:
    UK
    Ratings:
    +336
    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1638065,00.html

    I dunno, perhaps it's just me. But as a pet owner with the most lovable old pooch in the world, strapping him to the roof of the car is absolutely the last thing that would ever make my list of acceptable behavior.

    Yet this Mormon numbnut thinks it's okay.

    :jayzus:
  2. marathon

    marathon Calm Down, Europe...

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    28,685
    Location:
    Midamerica
    Ratings:
    +3,593
    He won't, but not because of this.
  3. Bulldog

    Bulldog Only Pawn in Game of Life

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    31,224
    Location:
    State of Delmarva
    Ratings:
    +6,370
    Mormon road trips can be wild...so I hear.
    • Agree Agree x 1
  4. JUSTLEE

    JUSTLEE The Ancient Starfighter

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2007
    Messages:
    6,659
    Ratings:
    +988
    What a fucking bastard.
  5. Zombie

    Zombie dead and loving it

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    45,044
    Ratings:
    +33,117
    Old news and it won't cost him the nomination.

    Other things will. Like the fact that he is a fake conservative. Governor of Massachusetts and we are supposed to believe he's a hard core right wing conservative? Whatever......... :dayton:

    They are really going to kill him on his abortion flip flop.

    Plus he is rather wooden in much the same way Gore was.
  6. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    49,177
    Ratings:
    +37,548
    Wait....

    maybe I'm missing something but....as long as the carrier was sheilded from the wind, what is the complaint?

    Never seen a dog ride in the back of a pickup? they love the view!
  7. Clyde

    Clyde Orange

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2004
    Messages:
    25,971
    Ratings:
    +8,368
    Not quite the same as being stuck in a carrier for twelve hours sitting in your own crap.

    Plus the whole strapped to the top of a station wagon doesn't scream safety to me.
    • Agree Agree x 1
  8. Tamar Garish

    Tamar Garish Wanna Snuggle? Deceased Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2004
    Messages:
    35,389
    Location:
    TARDIS
    Ratings:
    +22,764
    Also the cab of a pickup shields from the wind somewhat...the holes in a carrier do not...I can just imagine the wind pressure in that carrier...apparently enough to blow dogshit out of the carrier and on to the roof of the car.

    The poor dog, sitting in his own crap, wind pressure, probably noise between the cars and wind enough to be uncomfortable in his ears, crying for it to stop. For 12 fucking hours!!!

    Yeah, this guy deserves an ass kicking and a citation for animal abuse, IMO. :cry:
    • Agree Agree x 6
  9. Clyde

    Clyde Orange

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2004
    Messages:
    25,971
    Ratings:
    +8,368
    ^Not to mention it was twelve hours without food or water. :mad:
    • Agree Agree x 2
  10. Tamar Garish

    Tamar Garish Wanna Snuggle? Deceased Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2004
    Messages:
    35,389
    Location:
    TARDIS
    Ratings:
    +22,764
    And I would bet money they were mad at the dog for making a mess and or a bunch of noise.

    It just pisses me off to think of it. If I saw that on the highway, I'd call the police and report it with the addendum that it looks like the thing is about to blow off the car and into the road to make sure they got stopped.
  11. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2004
    Messages:
    81,024
    Location:
    front and center
    Ratings:
    +29,958
    - Clyde

    Yeah, those fraternity initiations are getting out of hand.
    Anyway, I hear Michael Vick will vote for him! :cool:
  12. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2004
    Messages:
    52,375
    Location:
    Boston
    Ratings:
    +42,367
    Wooden didn't keep Gore from the nomination, though he looked better on paper than Romney does. But I keep noting the same points you've made -- that he's not a conservative. In spite of this, he still looks to be doing okay. I conceive the possibility that people are either believing his "conversion" or willfully blinding themselves to it because he's the only big name Republican who has actually led a family values lifestyle. Sometimes the folks in Iowa and New Hampshire are fickle.
  13. Baba

    Baba Rep Giver

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    16,680
    Ratings:
    +5,373
    Presidential candidates can get away with rape and murder in america.
  14. Aurora

    Aurora Vincerò!

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2004
    Messages:
    27,169
    Location:
    Storage B
    Ratings:
    +9,325
    Finally somebody with the right ideas about the worth of life. No lieeeeberal bullshitting around. Teh fight against teh terrrrrar and teh brownz peepz requires somebody like that. Somebody who'll torture animals and not hesitate for a second to annihilate any country that looks at America the wrong way while chanting prayers loudly. Beck should have found his candidate of choice :borg:
  15. Volpone

    Volpone Zombie Hunter

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2004
    Messages:
    43,795
    Location:
    Bigfoot country
    Ratings:
    +16,277
    One time, on a cross-country vacation trip, Dad wound up strapping our dead Aunt to the roof of the car. And at one point he forgot he'd left her dog tied to the back bumper. Poor little guy probably kept up for the first mile or so... :(
  16. Jeff Cooper Disciple

    Jeff Cooper Disciple You've gotta be shittin' me.

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2007
    Messages:
    6,319
    Ratings:
    +3,056
    And the worst part was when Volpone's dad and family finally made it to Wally World . . . it was closed. :(
    • Agree Agree x 1
  17. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    49,177
    Ratings:
    +37,548
    Is it part of the allegation that the car never stopped and the dog was never walked in that 12 hours?

    If so I understand the complaint better.

    But I would think that a person so accused would say almost imedeatly that the dog was not confined for 12 hours straight.

    Has this been address in public?
    If you mean "what if there's an accident" safety, then yeah, I concede it's not as safe but then I am off the opinion that we overcompensate for the "what ifs" in this country anyway.

    IF you mean "what if it wasn't fastened securely, or couldn't have been" - I'm with you there.
    I mentioned that.


    Look, I don't want to see an animal suffer any more than any one else, but reading the whole article, I see a whole lot of IMPLIED cruelty and not a whole lot of factual description.


    Lets follow the link to the original story:

    So, there goes the wind issue.
    There's the distinct possibility the dog got walked during the trip.
    and...
    there's an example of NOT "sitting in his own crap"



    :shrug:


    I'm sorry, I'm just not seeing a slam dunk case of animal cruelty. I do see a strong case for sloppy, slanted, and weak reporting. Nothing in the proginal article says the dog was "protesting all the way". Nothing in the excert above, orthe reaction to it, notes this was 1983.

    Plus the fact that some might argue it wouldn't be very nice to the animal to leave it in a kennel all summer while the family went lsewhere too.

    Looks like a pretty thin charge to me.
  18. Jeff Cooper Disciple

    Jeff Cooper Disciple You've gotta be shittin' me.

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2007
    Messages:
    6,319
    Ratings:
    +3,056
    How does one get an Irish Setter, not a small dog, into a car carrier int he first place?
  19. Zombie

    Zombie dead and loving it

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    45,044
    Ratings:
    +33,117
    But Gore was VP of a popular president. It would have been mega hard for anyone to have gone up against him and won.

    Romney is not doing ok. He's falling behind. As he becomes more exposed people are realizing the truth about him.
  20. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    49,177
    Ratings:
    +37,548
    One assumes it was a carrier designed for large dogs. Another ASSUMPTION everyone is making is that the dog was in cramped conditions. Those old battleship Station Wagons had quite a bit of space on top and it's a given they make carriers big enough to hold all sorts of dogs.

    Maybe it's true. Maybe it's not.

    But we have seen assumed in this thread, or in the original excerpt that he was

    >Crying in protest
    >battered by the wind
    >confined in a small space
    >without food and water for the entire time
    >lost bowel control because of stress
    >suffered from ear pain
    >was transported in a less than safe manner.

    That last seems a reasonable assumption, depending on what level of safety you expect (I rode MANY miles in the back of a pick-up when I was a child and don't feel my parents treated me cruelly)...the rest is just assumption - and some of them assumptions disproven by reading the source article.
  21. Raoul the Red Shirt

    Raoul the Red Shirt Professional bullseye

    Joined:
    May 3, 2004
    Messages:
    13,066
    Ratings:
    +11,062
    The original reporting from the Boston Globe makes Romney seem cool under pressure, even though washing dog crap off a car isn't that big a deal, and is pretty much a no-brainer, and the only evidence of his being "cool" about it is the Romney family itself.

    Incidentally, the article claims he built a windshield for the dog.