So - sure enough the Tulsa dude had PCP in his car. IF (big if but still) Tulsa dude had PCP in his system - how would that change the narrative? Weird he was going to start college and make everyone proud of him and had PCP in his system. It's not really adding up - I can't wait for more facts! Hopefully everyone in Tulsa feels the same and won't torch the place!
I'm actually hoping it was a totally bad shoot. Every now and then it's nice to see BLMForge get it right for a change.
Somebody got killed tonight. http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/21/us/charlotte-police-shooting/index.html With no evidence of who was killed, why they were killed, or who killed them, I'm going to say that it was most likely a property owner who shot a looter who got violent.
Is it time for people to loot electronics stores and claim it is for social justice again? It seems like we just had that.
A work of fiction. That is ypur defense? Did you also think G. I. Joe was a documentary when you were a kid?
You mean he wasn't a minister? 1996 Shooting with Intent to Kill – Dismissed 2001 Petit Larceny – Conviction 2004 Driving while suspended – Conviction 2005 Driving while suspended, resisting officer – Conviction 2006 Driving while suspended -conviction Driving open container – Dismissed 2006 Trafficking in illegal drugs – Conviction He was also charged in that incident with assault on police officer and resisting, but that was dismissed. 2011 Public Intoxication (while in prison for drug trafficking) – Conviction 2012 Public Intoxication – Conviction Obstructing an officer – conviction 2013 DUI – conviction Resisting officer -conviction Open Container – conviction Failure to wear seatbelt -conviction Speeding – conviction And he didn't have his hands up. In the helicopter footage he went back to his vehicle and tried to open the door with his right hand, and then reached down toward his waist.
This is fucking nuts. Again out there rioting in Charlotte. This one isn't even worth protesting over. He had a gun. He refused to put it down and was confrontational with the cops. He didn't have a book. One of the protesters/rioters checked a CNN newsman. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...rter_tackled_live_on_air_two_people_shot.html Doing stuff like this just wrecks any progress on the issue. People stop giving a fuck if you riot on the justified shootings or before any investigation is even half-way done.
Throwing out the drug & booze/DUI charges, we have for actual convictions that really attest to his character: 1. Larceny Attesting to his being a "danger": 1. Obstructing an officer 2. Resisting an officer x 2 WTF with the 2011 public intoxication WHILE IN PRISON? How the fuck could he be charged with being drunk in public when he wasn't "in public" he was in prison? The prison fucked up if he had access to booze - I'm not seeing how he could be charged with this. So to recap what we know right now: CHARLOTTE - guy did indeed have a gun (it was recovered BTW) TULSA - guy had PCP in his car and has a long criminal record including drug charges - not yet confirmed that he had PCP in his system. At 40 years old 5 feet 11 and 245 (not all muscle) means he was not a giant beast of a guy by any stretch (nothing a couple of typical cops couldn't handle if things were to get physical) however he may have been behaving erratically due to drugs So far definitely nothing to riot about in Tulsa - maybe that's why they aren't. Charlotte is under an official "State Of Emergency" nut might get better (or worse) as details come in.
Surprised that as someone with as much jail contacts as you have that you don't know that inmates are more then capable of making alcohol. Where I work we call it Buck and the inmates generally use fruit to make it. Other places have different names. Which is why jails should be on top of recovering uneaten food. Especially fruits.
I'm aware that inmates make alcohol. I'm saying that since (in theory) there should be no alcohol in the jail, by charging him with this the prison/jail is admitting that they can't control their inmates. So that is the jail's fuck up.
Governor Pat McCrory has declared a State of Emergency upon the request Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Chief Kerr Putney after protests in uptown Charlotte. The governor also initiated efforts to deploy the North Carolina National Guard and the State Highway Patrol to assist local law enforcement. One person is in critical condition after Wednesday nights protests. Two others have been hospitalized http://www.foxwilmington.com/story/33154280/governor-declares-state-of-emergency-in-charlotte
I get that but it takes time, space & equipment to make booze. Sure you can commit a crime in prison - let's say you assault somebody by punching them in the face in a public area. No planning or equipment involved An inmate might just snap with no warning - a jail cannot stop that from happening, they can't cover every square foot of the place. But making & distributing booze means at least some areas of the jail are not being inspected thoroughly enough, often enough.
This isn't a matter of "police training" deficencies or racism on the part of one particular officer, but rather a much larger institutional probelm of racism and class violence between police and black and poor communities across the US. These cops are hardened "out on the beat" and the state of class and race relations in the US is such that these murders are happening time and time again. BLM is just the start of the kind of social movement that is needed to counteract state violence against the oppressed.
Uh, no. BLM is seeking to legitimize and boost the murder of black people by other black people by getting the police off their backs and out of neighborhoods.
Not many cops carry a bag of PCP around waiting to plant it on somebody. But true, police have been caught planting evidence. Of course if he ended up having PCP in his system that would be tough to plant after he was shot dead.
The takeaway - if you're a cop don't engage with/confront any blacks. Takes all risk out of the equation for the suspect (getting shot) and the cop (getting attacked by what they perceive as a threat, whether real or imagined). Both parties go home alive at the end of the day. You can't have a long term solution until you have a short term solution. Other than anybody who ever has contact with me, apparently not enough white people are getting arrested, so we have to correct that too. Or, perhaps we can just take a "no shoot" approach to black suspects. Make an attempt to question or detain them. If they refuse or seem apathetic, the cops drive away with a "we tried" attitude. Along these lines encourage more whites to resist arrest or otherwise not cooperate so we can boost the white suspects shot totals. This is the US we can solve this problem.
Tulsa police put video out immediately, that's a lot of why there is no violence. It was a bad shoot. Dude was already tazed when she shot. And you can't tell anything from the helicopter video at the point where you need it. It is so shaky. Although watching the victims lawyer change there story as time goes by is intresting. He's a family man, now it's we never said he was a saint
At least one of the two looters shot so far was shot by another looter in a dispute about which thief got to keep the best stolen loot. I guess this is what social justice looks like. If you people don't want Trump then you had best find a way to stop roving bands of thieves looting in the nebulous name of social justice. I say that because someone like Trump would probably suggest shooting looters on sight and a whole lot of normal people would support it just to stop the insanity. Keep up this bull shit at your own risk.
Who exactly are you talking to? Was somebody from Wordforge down at the riots? Was somebody saying people should riot?
This is what social injustice looks like. Just admit you're voting for him already, it's a perfect fit.
I drive by the Air National Guard base on my way to work. It looks like that place is getting ready for war. But some good news. The person that was reported killed last night has been upgraded to alive.
This morning they were interviewing a lady who "saw the whole thing". Not only was it a book instead of a gun, but he was actually shot by a white cop. Vinson was just a patsy.
Oh, fuck off. The usual suspects like 14D have started multiple threads in the past encouraging crap like this and the usual shit stirers, like yourself, Gul, have also voiced support in previous threads. I am glad you have suddenly, if belatedly, returned to sanity but don't pretend like the rest of us can't remember what has been posted in threds like this in the past.
Um, no. We have supported and continued to support calls for justice and de-militarization of policing. That is not supporting riots. Sometimes we have argued that the kind of anger that can lead to riots is understandable and reasonable. But again, that's not actually calling on people to act on the anger through violence. You really just respond to user name, don't you, rather than trying to understand what a person has said.
