Check your privelege, once more with feeling!

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  1. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    like so much of this conversation, a lot of it goes to context and intent, but just considering lingustics - labels are a vital function of language.

    "I have a dog."
    "Oh? What sort?"
    "Well he's rather large and has lots of hair"

    Much better to say "He's a collie" or "he's a sheep dog"
    Hell, even "dog" is a sort of label.

    Pretty much every demographic category by which you might analyze a population represents a label. "Evangelical", "Jew", "Muslim", "Irish", "Hispanic", "Elderly", "married", "single" - the list goes on forever.

    If it is legitimate to use "heterosexual" or even "straight" then it's legitimate to use "cisgender" - at least in the academic sense.
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  2. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Please do not lump me in with your ignorance. I was born a white male, and because being trans means I can easily play with all the other white boys and infiltrate their little cabal while still being a part of a minority that most certainly is at a disadvantage. Just because one is at a disadvantage to the WASP power structure of the US by no means says they cannot possibly achieve great things, it does mean it is far more rare, and many people who try will not be permitted to achieve because of some rather stupid reasons like skin color, religion, gender, or whatever other reason.

    It is great that you got ahead, but it is pretty crass that you got yours now you wish to ignore the reality for other people like you who are trying as hard and harder but were not able to find the hole you did. No, recognition of the reality prejudice still exists is not a pity party for brown people. You see without recognizing it is there nothing will change because the people who do it do not give a fuck about fairness. The reality is if you want the best of the best you need to bring everyone up to speed in the best way possible. This means not underfunding schools in poverty ridden districts because you know blacks and hispanics are large parts of those areas. You do not toss resumes simply because they have non-white names on them. You do not pay women less for the same job. You do not drive your employees nuts with questions of which bathroom to use when you have real work to do. As a matter of fact when the little white trash fuddy duddy comes up and complains about the person in the bathroom with them you fire that asshole for avoiding work with stupid shit, or at least because if you know for sure someone has a vagina or a dick from just being in the bathroom in them you are the peeping pervert.

    So, where we are glad you have a single experience that was good, it is anecdotal and worthless for us to pretend this is how it works for everyone there cosby fanboy. There is white privilege no matter how much it annoys you. I know there is because I enjoyed it. Now you should probably go knock on some wood or something because it seems you have been luicky or strong enough to avoid the swings from white people who have been there trying to knock you down. I have a feeling it is luck as you are not very perceptive so you should probably go with the luck thing rather than hoping to see the punches coming.

    Oh, and I do hear the fix noise network is looking for some conservative darkies (not my words, it is what they call them) to say all the racist things they do not allow the fimbos, ducy or Orielly to say. Hannity is too busy sucking the cock of old people who steel cows. So they need some more fresh dark meat and you sound like you would be perfect. You are loud, angry, and you make their audience of old white guys feel a lot better about themselves.
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  3. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Those things have been going on since the beginning of humanity. Yes, in a relative sense the modern english words are new, I am sure the old tribes had many different words for those things. Do you really think gay just came about? Are you that stupid, or did you just come off that way? Did you miss caligula? It is actually relatively new that people have pretended these things are not part of humanity.
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  4. Amaris

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    Nova is simply saying that our current terminology is most certainly a modern construct, rather than being based on ignorant concepts from millennia past. This is a lexical issue, not a physical one.
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  5. Herbalist

    Herbalist Masterdebater

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    I'm guessing this dipshit isn't worth my time.
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  6. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Best. Movie. Ever.
    Gets funnier every time I see it.
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  7. Bickendan

    Bickendan Custom Title Administrator Faceless Mook Writer

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    To be fair, Face operate under the principle of, "If it moves, fuck it; if it doesn't, assume it's into bondage." :bigass:
  8. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    Good point! It can even be a "check the block" kind of thing for white guilt. "I'm so glad I realize I'm privileged! I'll put some more money in that black homeless guy's hat the
    next time I pass him on my way to work. Well at least he's not robbing a Circle K like so many others do! But what choice do they have? I should cut them some slack."
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  9. T.R

    T.R Don't Care

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    Nope.
  10. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Seriously?

    Talk about not having paid attention.

    Reading comprehension is your friend. I said they are relatively new WORDS. Here, let me bold it for you...there. Hopefully that helps.
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  11. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

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    Are you cis-talking about new words still?
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  12. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    :cool:

    Thanks for the shout-out.
  13. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    Doesn't matter. The correct reply to res ipsa loquitur is always sed quid in infernos dicet?
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  14. Zombie

    Zombie dead and loving it

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    I actually have no idea what it means. I figured someone has to follow the pattern. ;)
  15. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    A question we can all ask about any Face post, if we can be bothered. :shrug:
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  16. Zombie

    Zombie dead and loving it

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    Seriously? We can only ask it about his? Not the drivel you call words in your posts?
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  17. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    We totally need a programmed Wordforge call and answer. Then when some dipshit like Flashlight trots out one of his usual slams, the board itself might reply.

    "You're a tired old cunt." ---> "Is that what you say in the counseling sessions?"
  18. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    As I told Flashy, your inability to understand the words you read (as evidenced aplenty in this thread, among others) is not my responsibility.

    Metaphors be with you. :P
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