In this thread I will illustrate for you all the socialist utopia I had the privilege of residing in for a couple years. ===== Separate threads: China's Orwellian social credit system China-Canada detentions row, 2018-19
The Economist (which is blocked in China) did a full expose on it last year. People abducted and sent to concentration camps on account of their faith and ethnicity. All mobile phones in the region fitted with government spyware as a matter of course. Security checkpoints in the cities every fifty meters. China.
It's interesting that this is required of them by the corporations that they work for. Socialism indeed.
About 10 years ago, I had an online friend who became a Christian missionary. He chose to go spread the word to Karen villagers (if I got that right) in a remote region of China. Communications from him became sparse. He said the local Chinese government was not tolerant of missionaries, and they were looking for him. After about a year, I never heard from him again. No clue if they got him, or if he came home safe and just decided to stop posting. It sounded pretty damn dire while he was there, tho.
And it was the police that put a stop to the debacle. But to be fair, the line between the private sphere and the public in China is blurred. Private corporations receive lots of subsidies and are regularly bullied into doing the government's bidding.
Pretty ballsy to go proselytizing in a country where it's explicitly illegal. Have you seen the film Silence (2016)? It's about Jesuit missionaries in 17th century Japan. Quite a horrific struggle.
Robmatter, you've read Pillsbury? Seems the greatest challenge to you convincing USA of your pov expressed here is to reeducate academia, government and big tech (mainly those areas) of the common misperception (created over a decades-long subtle propaganda campaign) that China is our best bud and has our interests at heart.
a lot of people forget that China plays a long game......the US wants it's threats obvious and easy to "wrap up" like a 1/2 hour sitcom..."mission accomplished!" then move on to the next challenge.
I know if no such perception. But until the Xi presidency, it did seem like China was making progress towards liberalism (in the classical sense). That may have led Western leaders to treat it more softly than they should have. But now it's clear that China is, far and away, the biggest threat in the world to Western values, and as their economic power expands it only gets worse. And no, I'm not familiar with any Pillsbury who's not a dough boy.
China's Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) The wiki article is huge- probably a TLDR exercise for anyone not really interested. I got turned on to this through the U.S. Naval Institute. China is doing a lot more than building islands along the First Island Chain and arming them to the teeth. They're playing the long game at which they've always excelled, and frankly, I'm not sure we're up to the challenge. They've already overtaken us in cyberwarfare, and they're starting to overtake us in technology too. Ever since 1996, they've been rapidly building a modern, capable navy with blue-water warfighting capability, designed around their own goals and strategic initiatives- not the the stuff that won WWII, and definitely not a social experiment. The BRI is something else: it's a level of globalism the U.S. is frankly loathe to take on, and can't currently afford even if it wanted to. Modern day guns and butter, except right now it's mostly butter, which makes it seem pretty benign. It's not, but like so many things, we're going to go the way of the slowly boiled frog. While we're accusing our own capitalist, billionaire president of being a Russian spy, bringing government to a standstill over 5 billion dollars, and agonizing over a shaving commercial, China is quietly and firmly positioning itself to dominate the globe by the 2nd half of the 21st Century. That's a government with a 'president for life', that's done all the things listed in the above posts. Fun stuff ahead. May you live in interesting times.
RE: China's "social rating" like credit scores - a low score means China won't let you work or travel. From Wired
almost forget - Fruitloop probably knows about this site, but if not.......LOL fun for the whole family! http://www.engrish.com/
If only the the US could tie all the countries in the region (except China) into some kind of economic alliance. A Trans Pacific Partnership if you will...
I always wonder about a country so focused on the free market reacting with horror when they actually face some competition.