Conservativism is the Ideology of Selfishness

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  1. Excelsius

    Excelsius Dreamer of Dreams

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    A comprehensive study has confirmed what most of us know in our hearts: In the very core of its being, conservatism is nothing more than selfishness writ large.

    (Excerpt)

    See: http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/07/22_politics.shtml
     
  2. marathon

    marathon Calm Down, Europe...

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    Berkeley, eh?
     
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  3. JUSTLEE

    JUSTLEE The Ancient Starfighter

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    Oh it's not like I've never heard this shit before.
     
  4. Excelsius

    Excelsius Dreamer of Dreams

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  5. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Translation: bias that's off the dial.
     
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    SpatialDude Fresh Meat

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    Yep, and social conservatism itself it based on fallacies. Time and time again society changes. Racial intermarraige used to be a big problem with Conservatives. Now, they don't say anything about it. Swimming fully clothed for women used to be the norm. Now, women wear hardly anything. And a million other examples.

    The natural course of humanity is towards greater freedoms.
     
  7. Excelsius

    Excelsius Dreamer of Dreams

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    So a school that's ranked No. 1 in the world in engineering and No. 2 in the nation in business is biased against conservatism?

    Damn those leftist engineering-business double majors, anyway!
     
  8. Ward

    Ward A Stepford Husband

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    I suppose I could dig up some conservatively-biased-hate- speech-posing-as-academic-research that says just the opposite.

    But there isn't any. lol
     
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  9. Ward

    Ward A Stepford Husband

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    "Terror management"? I guess it's a good thing conservatives have been running the country during and after 9/11, huh? ;)
     
  10. Excelsius

    Excelsius Dreamer of Dreams

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    You probably wouldn't be able to find any from a decent school, for the obvious reason that conservatism can't validly be seen as altruistic along common-sensical dimensions.
     
  11. Ward

    Ward A Stepford Husband

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    Source, please...
     
  12. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Not quite. Social conservatism simply holds that change should be slow and incremental rather than massive and all-encompassing. Minimizing the Law of Unintended Consequences as much as possible and maintaining things that work rather than change for the sake of change.
     
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  13. Ward

    Ward A Stepford Husband

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    I agree. You wouldn't be finding this kind of hate speech being generated by a decent school.
     
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  14. Excelsius

    Excelsius Dreamer of Dreams

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    Bock, you're a maroon.

    You couldn't even find the source for my rankings even though it was right in front of your eyes:

    From the above:

    http://mot.berkeley.edu/Berkeley_Stu...es/WSJFL03.htm (No. 2 in the nation, according to a recent ranking of business schools cited in the Wall Street Journal).

    http://www.coe.berkeley.edu/forefront/winter2005/usnwr.html (No. 1 in the world, according to a recent ranking of engineering universities).
     
  15. Caedus

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    About that study...

    From here

     
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  16. Ward

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    Oh, I forgot to include the mantra "unbiased, outside sources".

    I laugh at your "superior intellect". ;)
     
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  17. Excelsius

    Excelsius Dreamer of Dreams

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    Those were reports of rankings by unbiased, outside sources, you maroon, you.
     
  18. Ward

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    I have question for you, Exc. Was Reagan really a conservative?

    If you define conservatism as a resistance to change, then Jimmy Carter was far more a conservative than he was.
     
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  19. Ward

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    So I guess the same unbiased sources told you that liberals are far nicer and less condescending than conservatives, right? lol
     
  20. Excelsius

    Excelsius Dreamer of Dreams

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    Find me an analysis by someone other than a conservative hack for the National Review and I'll take notice.

    The fact is that most liberals are far more open-minded than most conservatives -- something that Goldberg completely overlooks, and that, by itself, invalidates his plaintive defense based on the kindergarten-era excuse: "But liberals can be stubborn too!"
     
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    Oh fucking bullshit.
     
  22. Excelsius

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    Not a bad description of Goldberg's attempted apologia.

    Face it: At the psychological foundation of it all, what is conservatism except "I want to keep what's mine"?
     
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  23. Caedus

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    and someone from Berkeley, a town so far to the left that it makes places like Austin look conservative, isn't as biased as Goldberg?

    Liberals open minded?

    The Global Warming debate disagrees!
     
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    What is liberalism but forceful negation of that philosophy?
     
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    marathon Calm Down, Europe...

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    Would that be "I want to have what's yours?"
     
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  26. Ward

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    Was Reagan a conservative? Sounds pretty much like a radical to me yet he's listed in one of your "unbiased" sources right up there with Hitler.

    Reagan changed the world for the better and your lib buddies just can't stand the comparison between him and Carter.
     
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    Well, I believe that there are far more pro-gun Democrats than there are anti-gun Republicans. :shrug:
     
  28. Caedus

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    ORLY?

    http://www.philanthropy.com/free/articles/v19/i04/04001101.htm

     
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    Excelsius is so full of shit it's pathetic.

    This shit no different than Ann Coulter's crap.
     
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    Liberalism is "let's work together so that all may thrive."