Cops Raid Wrong House, Get Shot At--but that's not even the best part

https://thefreethoughtproject.com/d...ughter-mistakenly-raided-his-home-no-charges/

More at the link.

No, I haven't changed my mind on gun ownership because of this rare happy ending, but I'm glad the homeowner isn't seeing an arrest because of incompetence and the chief of police is taking ownership of this.

Amazingly, the family involved was black. I seriously thought they were white. I'm glad to have my jadedness proven wrong.

I'm glad the homeowner survived and isn't being charged.

It's time for police to do a better job with their CI contacts.

It is amazing that such an outcome for such a mistake on the part of the police should make news. I get that occasionally the wrong address is gotten, and that the police might execute a no knock warrant on occasion, but to have things go this wrong and no death to the innocent happening is a much better outcome.

I am not saying the cops should be shot, but this is what happens when you pull a Dayton while executing a search warrant. Perhaps we should shoot higher than the Arkansas school system when raiding homes in such a fashion.

I heard about this yesterday, it’s definitely a step in the right direction. The cops are going to be fine.

so how come Amazon never gets the wrong house, but the cops do? Am I right?

Good question.

The worst part about this story is that the incompetant cops are going to survive.

But I'll bet they will triple check everything next time.

Do you really believe death is appropriate for raiding the wrong house?

For cops?

Fuck yeah.

I just wish they'd been California cops.

Clearly a case of a man who values his life more than others.

*watches intently from outside of the thread*

The police are way over-militarized in the United States. It's out of control.

See, this is one of those areas where you want to iron it all out ahead of time. The state, and law enforcement in particular, has far too much power over the lives of others. Look at the stories of 9 man SWAT teams breaking down doors trying to arrest a 17 year old, or police using flashbang grenades on children, or the law in Ohio that says it's perfectly acceptable to use a taser on a 7 year old. It's utterly insane.

I wish they all could be California..

More like criminals, and potential criminals.

Kill more KKKops imo

Everything about this situation is insane.

So we are told that having already shot the cops, the man stopped as soon as he could tell it was the police. Does that mean that if they had been at the right place, the inhabitants would also have been in their rights to shoot at the cops, assuming they were home invaders?

Is that just general policy now? Warrants lead to violence? No attempt to communicate first?

No. Because the police would have been in the right by being at the right location. Yeah it doesn't sound right but that's the current state of things.

I've always been against no-knock raids (short of hostage/terrorism situations). Screaming police while you slam through the door isn't good enough for me. Anyone can scream police.

So shooting at a cop can be either legal or illegal, and the shooter has no way of finding out. Wow.

#MAGA!

agree! If you have not positively identified yourself as a policeman, how do you expect the residents to react?

This should be so blindingly obvious that I am having a really hard time picturing how everyday life works in the US, given this information. There seem to be far too many situations where reasonable people will have good reasons to mistakenly kill other people. Surely that can't be how you live?

define "you" when you ask how do you live? Statistically the average US citizen won't have armed people (cops or criminals) busting down their door. Thus I don't really dwell on that risk any more than I dwell on getting hit by lightning. Obesity kills far, far, far more people across the US and that is something I have almost absolute control over, so I focus on that aspect of keeping myself above ground - what else can you do?

Amazon =/= UPS, FedEx, and USPS.

If you'd like to hear about those particular nightmares and why I absolutely refuse to ever give one red cent to the USPS, I'll be happy to bend your ear. USPS has simply lost the last three packages I've sent via them. Boom. Gone. Vanished into the ether. Or maybe about the time UPS delivered a textbook I needed to an abandoned, condemned house across town that I recovered only by divine providence (I happened to be driving by on my way somewhere and noticed a package sitting on the porch of a house with the same number as mine). FedEx has hosed me the least, but there's still stories there too.

I've been hosed so often, and Amazon has been forced to give me so many free months of Prime, that Amazon manually changed my profile to prevent shipping by any other shipper than FedEx because UPS and USPS simply can't be trusted.

as for Fedex/UPS is the fact that they have to drive like a raped ape to make a profit a major factor in delivering to the wrong address or otherwise making mistakes? If so, that wouldn't explain the USPS making mistakes with both mail & packages because they don't seem to be in too big a hurry. Funny for the longest time a few years back I used to get a lot of mail addressed to the John Deere tractor factory a couple of miles away. Bear in mind I live in a very typical subdivision. Apparently the driver was absent for their training on "how to tell the difference between a four bedroom house and a giant factory" day. I guess the glitch was my house address is 123 Pine Road and the factory is 123 Edgeview Road. So I guess having the same digits over-rides the rest of the street address! Who knew?

This is idiotic. Trump has nothing to do with this topic.

Police have gone to the wrong house plenty of times in the past.

In fact there were lots of ATF/FBI fuckups like this under the Clinton/Reno regime.

The Branch Davidians. Good Goddess, that was a clusterfuck. Janet Reno screwed the pooch on that one. So many needless deaths.