I was under the impression, that our tanks were the best in the world and were all but invincible. Guess I was wrong [yt=Really Bad]CUvoaD6Vnkg[/yt] My condolences to the families of all the poor guys that died in them
First off, 1) Any tank can be destroyed if it runs over large enough of an explosive. 2) Tank destroyed in no way means "crew killed". Many Abrams tanks over the years have been destroyed with the crew surviving (which is one of the points of their design). IIRC, the first M-1 Abrams crew to ever get killed in battle was during the invasion in 2003 when the driver was hit and the tank veered into a flooded irrigation ditch. 3) M-1 tanks can burn for a long time and the crew inside survive. In the 2003 invasion, there was a tank which had it's ammunition set on fire, the three crewman in the turret escaped while the driver was trapped inside. A couple of hours later when the tank cooled enough to reapproach, the driver popped out and asked what took them so long.
I thought you said that you were a tank crewman when you were in the Army, Startard? So either you're lying or you didn't pay any attention for the duration of your enlistment.
I never said that I was a tank crewman. I said that I rode in one while at the firing range (an old M-60). My primany MOS was a 94 Bravo (Food Service) I was kicked out of the mess hall for reasons I cant explain, but during my six year enlistment, the military had a logo of "Be All you Can Be" Translated that meant "You will be whatever the Hell we tell you to be, and you will like it" I have done everything from Drove Duece 1/2's till I damn near passed out, to lug around 60 cal machine guns and ammo boxes, to moving wall lockers and other stupid shit 24/7 until my back damn near broke. Sadly, the Army never had a MOS code for "Hebrew Slave"
This is an internet photo of the type of tank I was in. Its an old M-60 Patton This thing was a medium tank that was so fucked that the Army stopped using them. The last ones I can remember seeing were all lined up in the motor pool with the Canons removed and cranes installed as replacements. The interior was very small and cramped, the turrent of the one I was in had to be turned by hand crank, it got VERY HOT inside of those things very quickly, and with no room to move around it wasnt very long before tempers started flaring and every strated going crazy. I had never been to tank school, and had abeolutey no ideas what the hell I was doing in there. I got stuck in there by a crazed officer (a certain Captain for whose name I shall not mention) for all things.. over a girl! THere is a whole lot more to this story, more than I'm allowed to tell
You're the biggest retard on this board, but I'm bored and drinking beer so I'll indulge you. It's actually an M60A3, the type that I spent most of my time on. Actually, it was a Main Battle Tank. The Army quit using the "light/medium/heavy" classifications in the 50s, before the first M60 was fielded. They weren't "fucked", they were just replaced with a much better vehicle in the M1. I loved the A3s because they had more "character" than the M1s, but I wouldn't want to go to war in anything but an Abrams. No. Chances are what you saw were M728 Combat Engineer Vehicles, which were purpose built, concurrently with all models of the M60. M60-series turrets are as spacious as gymnasiums compared to M1-series turrets. But that's okay because the M1 armor is that much thicker. Sounds like the hydraulics system was out or somebody was too stupid to use it. There's our explanation for Startard, Wordforge.
Well I can't but to agree with you on most of those things. To me that thing was a piece of shit. The Germans had MUCH better ones "Leopard 1's" but I never got close to any of them. While on Range duty, I got "assigned" to that thing all because I chose to defend this really cute German girl from this crazed "Kraut Killer" Captain that apparently thought that WWII was still on. Fucker kept ragging on this woman calling her everthing from "Shatze the Nazi" to "Axis Annie" while laughing his ass off, and the fucker simply wouldnt stop, so.... I decided to fight fire with fire and let him have it with all the "less than intellegent" things the DOD did back during the Vietman war and the Civil Rights era, all that ended in "less then favorable" terms with our adversaries. The more he kept hammering her about the Nazis and WWII, the more I kept at him about the outcome of war in Vietnam and how Martin Luther King Jr bust the Govt ass, until he decidede that he had enought and had me assigned as an "armored personnel assistant" legally there is no such thing, but this is the title he gave it. Fucker tell me, "See that tank sitting over there, today that tank needs a gunner, and guess what..YOU'RE IT!! I tell him that I have NEVER been to armor school and have no traning on these things whatsoever. He tells me, You ever head of "BE ALL YOU CAN BE"? Today God Dammit, you will be whatever the fuck I tell you to be. I try and go to my Commander, and guess what he says to me? GOOD TRAINING... GOOD TRAINING... I DONT WANNA HEAR IT, DAMMIT I SAID I DONT WANNT HEAR IT... IF ITS GOOD FOR CAPT (cant mention name), THEN ITS GOOD FOR ME! NOW GET OUT OF MY FUCKING SIGHT, TILL FURTHER NOTICE YOU ASS BELONGS TO HIM! Oh well
Here is an internet photo of the Loepard 1 that I remember From What I can recall, the turrent moved far faster on this thing that the M60's did
