DC cinematic universe thread.

George Lazenby is 9 years younger than Sean Connery and On Her Majesty's Secret Service wasn't a prequel.

Just sayin.

Ugh, not sure I like that choice....

Man, the reviews are not looking good.

Hmmmm....I...could see that.

All I worry is
1. Will I like it?
2. Will this kill the DCEU?

For 1, even people that hate it say it's a step up from BvS, and I love BvS, so I'm gonna like it.

For 2, look, Aquaman is filmed, Shazam is in motion, so bare minimum those are coming out.
Both of those are gonna be lighter than the Snyder tone, and Shazam is definitely gonna be lighter, pretty much a comedy.
They won't have that to cry about anymore.

As long as I'm enjoying the films, and the DCEU keeps rolling along, and getting better each time, RT can go fuck themselves.

I've never cared about reviews or Rotten fucking Tomatoes. If I want to go and see a movie I'll see it and make up my own mind.

Like @Paladin I really enjoyed BvS - one of the better comic book movies I've seen (the full version), I'm really looking forward to this.

Seeing it tonight!

It doesn't suck. In fact, I was very entertained.

No spoilers here, except under tags.

Yes, the villain is a bit generic and, yes, the plot is a bit simple, but it delivers what I wanted: lots of great comic book action and a very likable set of heroes.

Much more humor than MoS or BvS, and it's mostly character-based and works. There's one scene where Aquaman has a...monologue...and another where Barry and Vic perform an unpleasant task together that I especially enjoyed.

Ben Affleck should be able to be Batman as long as he wants to be. It's official: this is my favorite incarnation of the character.

Gal Gadot continues to shine as Wonder Woman. She doesn't do anything real deep here, but she's solid throughout. She gives one bad guy a glare that probably caused him to soil himself. Her scenes with Vic/Cyborg are good, and I would've liked more of it.

Ezra Miller and Ray Fisher are both terrific additions. Mamoa is probably my least favorite, but he does the action well and the portrayal of Atlantis makes me eager to see his standalone film.

I always enjoy Amy Adams and Diane Lane, but they don't have a whole lot to do in this one. Adams' Lois Lane gets one pivotal scene that's a nice surprise.

Is Darkseid in it?

Is (a) Green Lantern in it?

Is Supergirl/Shazam/Black Adam/Catwoman/The Joker/Triplicate Lass/Snapper Carr/Jonathan Kent/Booster Gold/Red Tornado/Robin/Nightwing in it?

Does you-know-who return?

There's a mid-credits and a post credits scene. The mid-credits one is a lot of fun and plays with an ongoing theme in the comics. The post-credits one builds up to a point where I actually said "Oh, fuck yeah!" out loud. If you REALLY want to know what the post-credits scene is...

It's two hours long and races by. It's clearly been trimmed severely to limit the running time. For the most part, this doesn't hurt: the movie doesn't feel as long as it is. But a lot of development has probably been removed. My guess is that there could be a 30-minute longer cut of this thing somewhere, and that it will probably be superior.

Can you tell where they digitally removed Henry Cavill's moustache?

Can you tell the difference between what Singer shot and what Whedon shot?

I really liked it. It's not Dark Knight good and, alas, it's probably not Avengers good, but it's very solid. Much as I enjoyed Thor: Ragnorok, I don't have a real overriding desire to see it again; this one I want to see again. Maybe a couple more times.

Is it better than BvS? I think 75-90% of people will say "yes." I actually say "no." But the movies are different enough, that I don't think knowing where you stand on one is really indicative of how much you'll like the other.

Rating: 7.5/10.

Tomato meter down to 37% audience score at 86%

Whedon did a few things I like. Buffy, Firefly, Avengers.

But Whedon the man is a d-bag.

The audience score is the one I pay attention to.

Grace Randolph pretty much spoiled all of that in her “non-spoiler” review.

I'm fed up with her.
Unsubscribed and blocked.

She’s quite an idiot. The Scmoes gave it a decent review. It sounds like the assessment that it’s comparable to the animated series is accurate. If so, that’s good enough for me. Now just give us GL, Hawk Girl and Martian Manhunter and we’ll be good to go.

http://dickynoo.blogspot.com/2017/11/big-winter-movies-part-3-part-5.html

Saw Justice League today. It's . . . okay. Lighter in tone than past DC movies, but somehow unsatisfying. Aquaman is pretty much unrecognizable in terms of how he's been portrayed in the comics. Steppenwolf is a good villain but lacks sufficient backstory. And Flash . . . dear God why didn't they cast Grant Gustin? Afleck's Batman comes across as tired, tho I gather that's what they were shooting for. Wonder Woman is great, Cyborg is also damn good in a somewhat understated way.

Six out of ten. Could have been better had they not tried to shoehorn quite so much into it.

What about the Big Blue Boy Scout?

Supes was the best part of the movie, altho his resurrection was handled kind of fast and loose.

I hear he's closer to the happy Superman we know and love this time.

Coolest moment (for me):

is the best version of BvS available for unethical streaming online anywhere? Not that I'm planning anything...

okay, frankly, I liked it quite a bit.

It's not Avengers, it's not even particularly close to Avengers - BUT it is so much better than MoS and BvS (both of which I didn't hate but were disappointments given what they had to work with) that it feels much closer to Avengers than to either of those.

It helped, for me, to split the movie almost into a prequel segment, and then the actual movie. The first act which involved the recruitment of the team had the same choppy lack of rhythm as the previous movies, abrupt jumps from place to place without any real connective tissue. There are some interesting moments, particular Bruce and Alfred in scenes together, and the recruitment of Barry that's been spoiled for a long time. But it is the weakest part of the film. Once the scene on the rooftop with Gordon happens and we have a team, it takes off from there.

To be clear, this movie is very much a live-action comic book. But that's how you make a movie like this work, lean into the source material. It's not much of a spoiler by now to acknowledge the boy scout is back and he's, on the whole, a MUCH more likeable guy in this film than previously. The moments of humor are all inherent to the characters, not forced, and very helpful to the overall feel of the movie.It's not, in my view, worthy of comparison to JLU but the fact that it moves far enough in that direction to even make you think about a comparison is a very good sign. in the right hands, I could see it getting there in future sequels.

And yes, the post credit scenes will be the highlight of your night, albeit I have to say that the strength of the overall cast, including the newcomer in the aforementioned scene, really drives home how very poorly Luther is cast.

Yes.

Eh. It was ok. I agree the first part of the movie was choppy. And the dialogue wasn't great. Have to say I wasn't really digging Jason Momoa's Aquaman or Ezra Miller's Flash. Once the team assembled it mostly delivered on the action and spectacle you'd expect from a live action Justice League.

Momoa and Miller were a bit much on the corny/jokey side. And I was a little confused about the Aquaman backstory. So he knows all about Atlantis and Mera and his family history but prefers to hang out in the nearby fishing villages. But we didn't really get much info on why and I wasn't clear where we were at in the character's story. He just shows up as a dudebro with a lot of jokes. I wonder if the Aquaman movie will take place before or after this. There was no real explanation of who Mera was. I knew who she was because I'm into the comics but for casual audiences there are a lot WTF moments like this.

It all felt very paint by the numbers. There was no real creative spark here. The villain was generic, certainly no Loki or even Ultron. There was another McGuffin for everyone to fight over. Characters overcome internal frictions and learn to work together. It's actually very similar in story structure to the animated Justice League: War movie. Just replace Steppenwolf with Darkseid himself and add Green Lantern and Shazam. And for being a much shorter movie I felt like that was a lot less choppy and introduced the characters to each other in a much more entertaining way. 'War' brought seven Leaguers together and gave each one some story and screen time. This movie only had to worry about introducing 3 new characters and only just barely got the job done.

This movie also fails in comparison to 'Secret Origins' the pilot episode of the Justice League animated series. Maybe my problem is I've already seen Justice League done very well in animated form and this just doesn't live up to that.

On the plus side Gal Gadot was great. She really embodies her character and was the stand out here just as she was in BvS. And I liked Henry Cavill here a lot more than in MoS and BvS. Hopefully they will continue to go in a positive direction with the character. The conflicted Superman from the earlier movies just didn't work for me. Still undecided about Batfleck. Keaton is still the better Batman. And Bale is still the better Bruce Wayne. Affleck is okay I guess.

I put this well below Wonder Woman but above MoS and BvS. And way, way above Suicide Squad which was just awful IMO. And a bit below the average of a typical Marvel movie. They just did a much better job of establishing their universe. And I'm saying that as a guy who probably has read and owned more DC than Marvel and even enjoyed more DC productions all the way from 1960s Batman and the Reeve movies to Lois & Clark, Smallville, Gotham, Batman TAS, Superman TAS, Batman Beyond, Justice League, Young Justice, Teen Titans, Arrowverse, etc.

Not really interested in any of the upcoming slated DC movies except Wonder Woman 2 and maybe Man Of Steel 2. Not at all interested in Aquaman, another solo Batman, Suicide Squad 2, Shazam/Black Adam or Flash. I can watch a more interesting version of Flash right now on TV.

EDIT: So according to Momoa, Aquaman's first trip to Atlantis was in this movie. Huh? It didn't come off that way AT ALL. He seemed to know exactly where he was going, who he was fighting, and who he was talking to. Either a lot of stuff got left on the editing floor or he is mistaken. They probably should have made Aquaman before this one...

that seem unlikely.

However, Arthur is (not stated on screen but I'm pretty sure it's the backstory) half human, thus his inordinate interest in the surface world.

James Wan says the Aquaman movie picks right up after Justice League.

Glad there are a few films in the hopper, because box office on Justice League would probably end the DCEU. But I doubt we'll get to see the sequel the end credits scene points toward.

Saw it again last night, enjoyed it again.

Whenever they make Justice League 2 I would much rather see the Injustice Gang versus Darkseid. Especially since he is so similar to Marvel’s Thanos.

The Big Bads are boring. Seeing the Injustice Gang could be great if they get the right writers. Seeing Luther interact with Joker in live action would be worth the price of admission.

The next three could/should turn it around.
Snyder is all the way out (I like Snyder's DC films, but he's divisive, especially with critics) Aquaman is a crowd favorite, Flash is a crowd favorite, and "Flashpoint", is being developed, Wonder Woman is a crowd favorite, and they're making her the Iron Man by sticking her in all the movies starting with "Flashpoint", and "Shazam", is "Big", with powers, so they'll have one they can finally sell to little kids without scaring the shit out of them.
Oh yeah, and "Wonder Woman 2".