Death by cop. Good shoot?

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  1. Bickendan

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    It was a knife. Cop should have responded with a leather jacket, not a gun :ramen:
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  2. AlphaMan

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    Here we go... sure, cops have a dangerous job and I understand they must be deftly afraid in certain situations... however, if you’re a cop walking around afraid most of the time then you should probably look into something else for a career. The use of deadly force should be a last resort. They should have tasers handy to subdue an aggressor that is minimally armed or unarmed.

    I just want to point out that more toddlers are accidentally shot and killed each year than police officers. Almost 4 times as many. Maybe a little perspective is needed on just how dangerous the job actually is.
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  3. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Scout???
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    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    His birth name was Scott, but because he couldn't figure what he wanted to be when he grew up, he started calling himself Scout.
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  5. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Well okay then.

    S/he has certainly scouted out the leading edge of police assisted suicide.
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  6. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Here's an option, the cop or cops could have put down their guns or gun and tried talking to the guy. Maybe one could distract him long enough so another could hand cuff him or something. That would take real bravery a heroism though.
  7. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Do the campus police wear vests? Of course, that only protects you torso, and a knife-wielding suspect would slash the shit out of your arms anyway trying to get to your chest.

    But it sounds like Scout was determined to force the situation regardless.
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  8. Zombie

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    Over the span of about 10-15 minutes, officers negotiated with Schultz to drop the weapon while their guns were drawn.

    http://heavy.com/news/2017/09/scout-schultz-georgia-tech-lgbtq-student-trans-knife-killed-photos/
  9. Zombie

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    Vests do not stop knife attacks.

    They help but unless you're wearing ceramic or steel plates, and they probably weren't, a vest will not stop a knife. Of course like you said there are other parts of the body not covered by the vest.

    This guy wanted to commit suicide but he was too chicken to do it himself.

    He called the cops and told them there was a guy with a knife and a gun. Turns out he was that guy!

    After talking to him for a while he probably thought to himself the only way to get shot is to start moving at the cops. He did that and he got shot.
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  10. Fisherman's Worf

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    If you're so scared of someone wielding a Swiss army knife that you feel the need to shoot them and can't think of any other more reasonable options, then you probably have a small penis.
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    The whole refering to him as "them" thing kind of irks me because you are using a plural to refer to one very confused and mentally ill person. That said, having watched the video did you see how he decided to menace the female officer with the knife? There are multiple officers on the scene yet it is the female he decides to threaten. I think the officers did all that was required and then some but if a person does not want to comply and wants to threaten an officer then what else can realistically be done?

    Lastly, the riots by agitators "protesting" has been disgusting to watch; burbing a police car and attacking four officers including sending one to the hospital. Hopefully the ones using street violence and arson will be caught, tried, and convicted.
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    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Man, I miss doing that.
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  14. Dinner

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    There was a report on NPR that millennials are actually buying houses in the suburbs now which was something supposedly the millennials would never do. Before they were renting apartments in the city center but it turns out once they got well paying jobs and started to get married they moved to the suburbs just like everyone else.
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    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    And I thought the suburban deer were bad enough.
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    I really hate the phrase, "good shoot".

    All shooting is bad, even if it's necessary or justified.

    I'd rather say "justified shooting" or something like that. Shooting is never good, even if someone needs to be shot.
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  18. oldfella1962

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    newsflash - the cops didn't know exactly what weaponry the suspect might have because THE GUY HIMSELF MADE THE 911 CALL SAYING THERE WAS A PERSON ARMED WITH A KNIFE so with that information the cops could only assume the suspect was armed. Also the cops are not close enough to see exactly what the suspect was armed with. He wasn't wearing tight shorts so who knows what he had down his sweatpants (keep it clean perverts!) If people shoplift twenty pounds of steaks from Walmart then stuffing a gun down your pants is no problem.

    BTW Kilometres if your penis is fucking big why don't you take it (and yourself) down to the nearest police or military recruitment center and sign up so you can show us all how a real man handles high stress encounters with armed crazy people. How fucking hard can it be (no pun intended) right?
  19. T.R

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    The problem here wasn't a cop "walking around afraid." The problem was an idiot walking towards a cop with a weapon in hand despite being told repeatedly to stop.

    Deadly force WAS a last resort. The verbal warnings were the first resorts.

    No, aggressors just need to follow the law and not try and attack cops. I have no sympathy for people that are that stupid.
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    I wouldn't say the guy was "stupid" as much as mentally disturbed. No doubt for whatever reason he wanted and expected an armed confrontation - or else he wouldn't have made the 911 call about himself being armed. Honestly I don't think the cops "dropping their weapons and talking to him" (as some here suggested) would have even been an option in this case - Scout had made up his mind before the cops even came. He would have most likely forced their hand in other ways if needed to get the reaction he sought. :(
    And not all cops have tasers or tear gas or whatever else "non lethal"methods available. And shooting someone in the leg or arm or any other extremity only works on TV or the movies. If someone perceived as a "deadly threat" to you then are you going to shoot them in the leg? They can still shoot you or even stab you if their adrenaline is pumping. A guy shot in the leg can still cover a lot of ground fast. That cop shot to stop that threat as fast and safely as possible - center mass of the upper torso. He dropped like a sack of cement, incredibly fast.
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  21. Fisherman's Worf

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  22. Shirogayne

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    :dayton:

    Piss off with that crap. We already use "them/they/their" in language when we don't know someone's gender. "Oh, look, someone dropped their wallet."

    What's the big fucking deal about using it when the person has a known name? I'd rather that than memorizing the five mile long list of Tumblr-exclusive bullshit pronouns. :rolleyes:
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    Fair poinr about the tumblr pronouns.
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    yeah that could be problematic. Some of those long hispanic/African names throw them a curve ball already. I wonder how they do it in China?
    "DAMN that fucking embroidery shop! I told her it was a box with a 5/12 pitch roof with three pieces of bamboo leaning on the left wall and a half-open window on the right! How fucking hard is that?" :shakefist:
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  25. Forbin

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    Star Trek novels have already provided us with gender-neutral pronouns that work find. Sh/he; Hi/er; Sh/it.
    :)
  26. Zombie

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    Fuck that shit.

    If you're a human you're either a man or a woman.

    If you want to identify as a woman, okay, you're a she/her/hers

    If you want to identify as a man, okay, you're a he/him/his.

    Pick one.
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    And their patrol vehicles were too far away.



    You can even see on her face the moment she realized she done fucked up
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  28. Dinner

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    Don't start shooting at cops and maybe they won't run your ass over. :shrug:
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    It's not stupid Anna.

    You're a male or a female.

    If you Anna want to call yourself a male that's fine. I'll use he/him/his words.

    But the moment you tell me you're a binary or some other dumbshit thing I'm going to ignore you and still call you either a male or a female.
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  30. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    :shrug: Hey, that's still more progressive than Paladin on this issue, at least.

    And while yes, I do believe there are only two genders, I can respect someone for using words already in the English language. It hurts nothing to respect it, even if I don't get it.