Is this even possible? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/i...war-on-immigration/ar-BBRaqJA?ocid=spartandhp
Watched this recently. Much of it sounds very familiar. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/eugenics-crusade/
you would think that there would be a "statute of limitations" type of thing, coupled with a criminal records check. In other words, if someone has been here for many years and they have a clean criminal record, and in this woman's case the people processing her records were very error prone then it should be simple: fast track her naturalization/citizenship since she has more than proven herself to be a productive law abiding citizen. Go chase actual immigrant criminals like MS-13 or (setting their sights lower) illegals who forge paperwork to help other illegals break the law. Just my 2 cents!
The Nazis took eugenics to the extreme. Look it up. During the Nuremberg trials, at least one high-ranking Nazi tried to use the US Supreme court ruling regarding forced sterilization as a defense.
All I'll say is that it's a good thing the states no longer consider it ok to sterilize imbeciles, although I'm pretty sure Buck v Bell was never explicitly overturned. Be quite a dilemma if the sterilize imbecile crowd hooked up with the man is a pernicious and dire threat to survival of planet zealots. Justice Ollie Wendell Holmes was quite a piece of work, a case of Darwinism gone wild, he supported some extreme views, like eugenics, but then stood against the (wrong) popular view when he favored e.g. constitutionality of free expression and social welfare, and he freely consorted with Jews and Catholics. I think the nazi supporters in the US dried up over time as more became revealed about how fucked up the Germans were.
It's not just Hatians being looked into but the fact that so many of those being looked into are displeasingly brown is the point. Miller has found another tool for Make America White Again.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/displeasingly here's the definition, genius. And "displeasingly" still doesn't make sense in the context of the sentence. Could Nova have meant "disproportionately?" I can only guess. Regardless here is my point (try to stay on task, it gets tricky): many of the people coming into the US are "brown" people. Thus math would dictate many of the glitches and railroadings would happen with brown people. Are a lot of people coming to the US from predominately "white" countries? According to my research (conducted five minutes ago) most of the immigration is from Asia & Mexico. Not a lot of white countries think the grass is greener on this side of both ponds. Personally I don't care who comes into this country as I have stated many times.
it means that MOST people who are stridently interested in controlling the number of immigrants here don't seem to have ought to say about, say, a German or a Frenchman or a Swede who's overstayed their visa or whatever.
Project much? In plain English: eject them all. Libs are the ones preoccupied with color and race - you have nothing real in support of your pov that anyone in favor of border control and enforcement of immigration laws makes ANY distinction based on race or color. Only the 'means' of NEW immigrants has ever been raised, and certainly not everyone that wants control/enforcement even agrees on that.
I just got home from work and saw the German, Frenchman, Swede comment. I'm sure Nova has empirical proof that these groups get cut slack just because they aren't "brown." Oh shit I wanted to see proof of her claim - that means I must be racist by daring to question her claim.
Well, Ben Franklin had a bug up his ass about Germans, French, and Swedes, but after he was gone, things loosened up a bit. Germans - along with Irish - encountered bias into the 19th century, but the other two got a pass. Nowadays, if you happen to have an advanced degree in chemistry or IT, you can usually go to the front of the line regardless of whether or not you pass the Paper Bag test. How many of us, if we were trying to emigrate from somewhere else today, would be allowed through the narrow end of the funnel?
All of us who aren't brown according to Nova! I bet 90 percent of the Central Americans on the "caravan" have doctorates in the hard sciences - even the kids!
there's a big difference between oldfella and some of our more...special...members. But I look forward to the day when he can see an issue without looking through the lens of white privilege.
In theory, I could get to the head of the line in New Zealand as I'm trained as a machinist and they need those.
Ummm.....I saw your picture and you seem pretty white yourself - do you feel privileged? Asking for a friend! And yes Trump was talking out his ass/the sun came up in the east when he talked about needing more people from Norway. He may have been trying to make a point but it didn't come out too smoothly, but nothing new there. That said perhaps people with skills are more in demand and they get fast tracked - I really don't know. If that's the case then maybe the immigration experts do prefer people with advanced skills & education. I do see a ton of Indians working as doctors where I live, but then again a lot of them work in (or own) convenience stores and motels too. And no matter how you slice it India is.....see the picture. It seems to me if your country was not a (see the pic again) then you wouldn't be leaving it in the first place - pretty much the point of migrating in most cases.
Wasn't that a picture of some texass towns after the hurricane a few years back? Or was that the Carolinas, or jersey, or the Floriduh panhandle? You do realize flooding happens in the USA in many cases, along with foreign countries also, right? That is not to mention poverty making American ghost towns and some of them are white trash shitholes like coal towns. It is not just black people who have problems even though when people like you are referring to people who should stay in their homes instead of trying to find a better place to live you seem to only be referring to brown people. People should look for better areas instead of hoping that things like coal jobs should come back to their shitholes, but according to your logic that seems to be bad. Hope your town never goes tits up and you have to go find a better place. If it ever does I do hope you meet republicans who stand in your way and pitch you and your family into the cold gutter because you should have seen shit coming.
I never claimed only brown places can be shitholes. Shithole is in the eyes of the beholder. To me a NYC penthouse is a shithole because you are still crammed into a building like a rat except you have a view of thousands of other buildings full of rats. Southern California is a shithole because of gridlock traffic, mud slides, wildfires, astronomical home prices, etc. etc. Tiny white trash towns where people are hooked on meth & opioids are definitely shitholes.
Indeed I do. Though not remotely as much as I used to be. There's a complex hierarchy of privilege in all cultures. In ours, you check all the boxes if you are: White Male Christian Wealthy Straight Cis (not trans) Lose any of those and you lose a measure of privilege, but you are still more privileged than others unless you are a poor black female Muslim lesbian trans woman. In my case, I'm still white (and will ever be) and thus compared to someone just like me, except that they are brown, I enjoy privilege. I'll never fall under suspicion by a police officer because of my race, never be denied a job because of my race, never be presumed a probable shoplifter, and so forth. The difference in me now, and me 10 years ago - other than the obvious - is now I can see what I was once blind to. It is regrettable that for myself and many others, you don't think much about privilege until you lose some. That's the way the system has worked and should work (in that aspect of broader immigration policy) but the problem is that Cult45 and their Glorious Leader have no conception that non-white people from other countries CAN have the desired skills. Oh sure, maybe you can find a PhD from India but there's surely one from Norway too so let's try and accept him instead. This is the Miller view of immigration. In our local emergency room, there are more brown immigrant doctors than white American born doctors and it's been that way for a couple of decades. I literally have never encountered in ANY setting a White European immigrant doctor in my entire life. How is it a negative that someone would seek to better their situation in a wealthier country? And by the same logic, what does it tell you when there's not a lot of immigration slots being used up by highly skilled white professionals from Canada, Australia, and Northern Europe?
How is it a negative that someone would seek to better their situation in a wealthier country? - Nova I never said it was a negative - I don't blame anyone for wanting to come to a country where (no matter who is president) they will have opportunity. And you won't see a white European immigrant because most of the white European countries are not (see the picture). It's basic math - for various reasons there are more brown FUBAR countries than white FUBAR countries. Trump of course got hammered for bringing this up, but he should be smart enough to realize the math favors few white European doctors/engineers/scientists trying to come here.
I used to think so, but now I'm convinced the only difference is that oldfella's folksy backwoods idiot routine makes him seem harmless and ignorant instead of malicious and dangerous.
Recognize that this is "intersectionality" garbage, and that purveyors of this nonsense will in the long run be revealed to be the hateful bigots "but for a good cause" they truly are. For a type comfortable with mind reading and thought policing, it's well within their comfort zone - but lies and phonies are ALWAYS revealed for what they are. Instead recognize that EVERYONE has an equal opportunity to achieve within the same system that has achieved best in world, if willing to live by the rules of that system (that is exactly the system that got us to where we are today) - and that fixing disparate opportunity is pretty much the only valid effort.
Huh? What @Nova said has nothing to do with intersectionality. Privilege is not a binary state where you either have it or you don't. I can have privilege as a cisgendered, heterosexual white male, while, as a nonbeliever, still having less privilege than a Christian churchgoer in a country whose systems were largely set up to make things more convenient for Christians. I probably have less privilege than someone whose parents and grandparents went to Harvard and Yale, and more privilege than someone whose parents didn't go to college at all. Various things about who you are and what situation you were born into can affect how you experience life and what advantages and disadvantages you may have. Why does the cultural right find this idea so threatening?
