DNC And Clinton Campaign Funded Research Behind Trump Russia Dossier

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  1. Anduril

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    Actually, it doesn't seem to be fake according to trump's own people. You really do not need to make shit up with a guy who flirts with his own daughter.
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    1) Every political campaign does opposition research.

    2) There was no FISA warrant against Trump.

    3) Nothing in the Steele report has been proven false. The most you can say is “unverified.”
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    I will die happy if Clinton funded the piss tape
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    Hillary did everything she could to dig up dirt on the women that accused her husband of sexual assault, why wouldn't she do it to Trump? :walz:
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    Seriously? When!

    Or is this like the time you said you’d move to Canada if Hillary loses? :bailey:
  8. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Statistically speaking, in like 40-60 years.

    Oh you mean like the time I never said that?
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    But who wrote the dossier? Christopher Steele.

    When did Steele come into the picture?

    Before or after the Democrats started paying FusionGPS who hired Steele?

    See Newsweek and the rest of the progressive media are leaving out some details.

    Some Republican hired FusionGPS to do research on Trump. By May 2016 the Republican knew Trump had won the nomination and backed out of the FusionGPS deal. The Democrats than took over in June 2016. In June of 2016 the first reports of the DNC being hacked were reported. In response FusionGPS hired Orbis Business Intelligence, a private British intelligence firm. Who was the co-founder of Orbis? Christopher Steele.

    Christopher Steele would than go on to write the dossier.

    So claiming that the Republicans had anything to do with Steele, the dossier, and the golden shower is a lie.

    There may be things that FusionGPS had gathered when working for the sole Republican and than gave to Steele that information which he put in the dossier but the dossier is all Steele. And the Democrats. And the FBI who wanted to hire him but got cold feet when his name as the author of the dossier was finally exposed.

    Newsweek and the other outlets are trying to muddy the waters.

    Not going to work. It's too clean cut. Especially given the FBI's behavior over the dossier and Steele.
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    Oh and remember that Russian chick who went to a meeting with Donald Jr?

    Natalia Veselnitskaya was her name. The woman who was let into the country by the Attorney General Loretta Lynch on a special immigration parole.

    Who was she working with?

    FusionGPS.

    Who was working for the Hillary Campaign and the DNC.

    Yeah.......

    It's looking more and more like Hillary was colluding with the Russians than it is Trump doing the colluding.
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    Even the New York Times is pissed off that Hillary's people were lying to them for over a year about the fact that Hillary's campaign paid for the dossier.



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    Even the current head of the DNC is trying to run away from this as fast as he can..............

    “Tom Perez and the new leadership of the DNC were not involved in any decision-making regarding Fusion GPS, nor were they aware that Perkins Coie was working with the organization," said DNC spokeswoman Xochitl Hinojosa.

    “Tom and me, we weren’t even there at the time,” Ellison told The Hill. “I know as much about it as you guys who have reported it.” (Keith Ellison the number 2 guy at the DNC)

    http://thehill.com/homenews/media/3...-blast-dems-over-trump-dossier-funding-claims

    Notice the key phrase: NEW LEADERSHIP

    Translation: We don't have a damn thing to do with it. It was Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the old DNC and Hillary's campaign staff.
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    You know how I know everything the dossier is completely accurate? Because Zombie is trying so fucking hard to discredit it.

    "Hurr hurr, real true facts don't count if leftists paid to have them uncovered!" :dayton:
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    Why are people surprised by this? It's SOP for any major campaign. Only a fool would think that there's anything unique about the DNC paying for this.
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    I have "unverified" reports that you suck oily cocks.

    Now prove it false. :bailey:

    :)
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    To match the level of detail found in the dossier, you would have to allege that I sucked a specific oily cock on or about a specific date. Even then it would not be incumbent upon me to prove it false, as indeed it is not incumbent upon Trump to prove any of Steele’s allegations false.
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    ... And what collusion would that be specifically? Last I knew, Chris Steele was a British national and not Russian.

    It's coming out now that Cambridge Analytica, a firm Trump funded reached out to WikiLeaks, a known Russian collaborator in an attempt to retrieve and exposed Clinton emails while she was SOS. Only on Fox News are these equally alarming stories. :rolleyes:
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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...rms-cambridge-analytica-sought-wikileaks-help

    It is funny how since the story came out yesterday the former Trump campaign officials are all running away from it saying it was just a minor contractor and we didn't rely upon their data even though the son in law personally hired them and ran their operations within the campaign, Steve Bannon is a partner at the firm, and the campaign paud them millions upon millions of dollars for some reason.

    Yep, direct attempts by the campaign to collude with Russia. This is the second time they have been caught and are trying to deny it.
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    Opinion Piece from the Wall Street Journal:

    The Coming Russia Bombshells
    A judge may order Fusion GPS to give House investigators its bank records.


    The answers are in Fusion’s bank records. Fusion has doggedly refused to divulge the names of its clients for months now, despite extraordinary pressure. So why did the firm suddenly insist that middleman law firm Perkins Coie release Fusion from confidentiality agreements, and spill the beans on who hired it?

    Because there’s something Fusion cares about keeping secret even more than the Clinton-DNC news—and that something is in those bank records. The release of the client names was a last-ditch effort to appease the House Intelligence Committee, which issued subpoenas to Fusion’s bank and was close to obtaining records until Fusion filed suit last week. The release was also likely aimed at currying favor with the court, given Fusion’s otherwise weak legal case. The judge could rule as early as Friday morning.

    ....

    There’s plenty yet to come with regard to the DNC and the Clinton campaign. Every senior Democrat is disclaiming knowledge of the dossier deal, leaving Perkins Coie holding the bag. But while it is not unusual for law firms to hire opposition-research outfits for political clients, it is highly unusual for a law firm to pay bills without a client’s approval. Somewhere, Perkins Coie has documents showing who signed off on those bills, and they aren’t protected by attorney-client privilege.

    Those names will matter, since someone at the DNC and at the Clinton campaign will need to explain how they somehow both forgot to list Fusion as a vendor in their campaign-finance filings. Some Justice Department lawyer is presumably already looking into whether this was a willful evasion, which can carry criminal penalties. It’s one thing to forget to list that local hot-dog supplier for the campaign picnic. It’s a little fishier when two entities both fail to list the firm that supplied them the most explosive hit job in a generation.


    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-coming-russia-bombshells-1509059214
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