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Discussion in 'Media Central' started by We Are Borg, Apr 15, 2017.

  1. K.

    K. Sober

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    Yes, but why was she in an astronaut's suit in the first place? Why did the Silence raise her in one as a girl?
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  2. We Are Borg

    We Are Borg Republican Democrat

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    I agree.

    Peter Capaldi was a talented actor and a likeable person, but the scripts for the first series or two were just shite.

    I'm fearing the exact same thing is happening with the very capable and also likeable Jodie Whitaker. :(
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    "It Takes You Away" - suitably creepy for the first part of the story, emotional for the rest and downright trippy right at the end. I'm in two minds about the final form taken by the "villain"...


    ...but the impact of the story on the crew is the important part. Graham shines again here, but everyone else gets to be useful and the Doctor gets some proper heroics this week charging into danger to investigate and offering herself as a sacrifice at the end to ensure Hanne's dad gets home.

    Plus, I loved this bit of dialogue:

    Alien: "Back off, granddad!"
    Graham: "What me? You're the one who smells of his own wee!"
    Alien: "It's not my wee."
    Doctor: "And you're going to put the knife away because you really don't want those to be your last words..."
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  4. We Are Borg

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    The entire episode was trippy... probably one of the trippiest Who episodes in a long time. It was so bizarre and weird that I've decided I really like it. :D
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  5. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    The concept of a neutral passageway between alternate realities is interesting, but... a cave full of man-eating moths??
  6. matthunter

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    Well you don't want folk wandering in if it's to keep the realities apart.
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  7. NAHTMMM

    NAHTMMM Perpetually sondering

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    Finally saw the Christmas episode and first of Whittaker's. Really enjoying her Doctor. She's got a lot of Capaldi's mannerisms down pat, which I'm sure will fade away as the Doctor settles into his/her new self, and she's more friendly.

    The bike tossing came off as dumb, although maybe it'll feel more believable when I know the character better.

    Cinematography seems . . . less stuffed full? More natural lighting? Not sure exactly, but different.

    And that's quite a cliffhanger!
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Very talky in the middle, but some good action otherwise. Need to watch it again for nuance.
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    I figured the moths were related to those paradox cleansing monsters from Father's Day. :async:
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    "The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos": That's more like it. Finally The Doctor is back!

    But sniper bots are awfully stupid, aren't they? "Hey, guys, :idea: let's get each other caught in the crossfire and save the strangers the trouble of killing us!" :facepalm:
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    NAHTMMM Perpetually sondering

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    Documentary, is it. Some of these shots -- especially the outdoors ones -- have the feel of documentary cinematography.

    Been enjoying the first few episodes. The Rosa Parks one was painful to watch, in the right way. Jodie's been good, and the writing for her gang is a little raw but they're likable.
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    The characterisation has been excellent, the only issue is that Chibnall has gone a bit overboard on the "no true villain" or "society is the villain" tropes, which has left the Doctor lacking a bad guy to condemn. The religious hate of the brother in "Demons of the Punjab" and the racial hate of pretty much every white character in "Rosa" could be railed against, but being historicals all the Doctor could do was point it out and fail to correct it, since we know humanity didn't just wise up and forget petty tribalism due to the words of a wise woman with a box.
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  13. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Phrasing! :unsure:
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  14. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Hey, contrary to popular myth, Wisewomen have boxes, and they're not all full of sand and covered with cobwebs, despite what @Sokar and @The Flashlight's extremely limited experiences may have been.
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  16. The Flashlight

    The Flashlight Contributes nothing worthwhile Cunt Git

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    I think I'm going to begin a running tally of how many times @garamet and other libtards mention me in threads where I'm not participating. :lol: :rolleyes:

    :freddy:
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    The Flashlight Contributes nothing worthwhile Cunt Git

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    Predictable. Critics pushing a SJW identity politics agenda gush over it, but actual audiences hate it. So of course the BBC has announced that VaginalWho is coming back for another season. :rolleyes:
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  18. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Turns out when you make something lots of people watch you get to keep on making it, who knew.
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  19. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I looked at that dude's YouTube channel and Twitter, and he just so happens to hate absolutely everything with women and black people.
    He's not a bigot though.
    He just hates every single strategy for social change anyone could ever conceive of ever, ever, ever, ever, EVER.
    But he'll let you know if he likes one at try fifty billion.
    And he prefers white men.
    And for women to stay in the My Little Pony and Barbie fandoms.
    He's not a bigot though.
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  20. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    I didn't watch the video after checking out the list of videos he had recently created for that reason. I particularly loved the title of one where he said that Who is losing the "Real Fans" and they are being replaced by "SJWs" :lol:
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  21. Ebeneezer Goode

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    The ratings have been an overall improvement over the last few seasons, so, no.
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  22. Ebeneezer Goode

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    It's the internet. If you like it, or you don't, you can expect a forensic breakdown of why you're a SJW/bigot for doing so.

    At some point, in the last few years, identity politics has gotten so riddled with fruitcake maggots siloed in their respective echo chambers, that there must be some Bond-villain type motive to liking/disliking something. Occams razor has obviously been purloined to style hipster facial hair.

    It's kind of weird, internet engagement has evolved from the early days where anonymity stripped away a lot of civility, into those who were actively trolls (with the odd nanny, who are almost as bad as the trolls), and, now, we see the next stage.

    Bone fide fuckwits of every stance.

    I feel sorry for the likes of Flashy, it's like watching the old school bully at a reunion slowly realizing their entire schtick is amber that has solidified around them, relevance redshifting into the distance.
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  23. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Speaking of boxes, is it my imagination, or could the Tardis use a new coat of paint? The exterior seems a bit shabbier than it did in the 12th Doctor's era.
  24. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    It probably bounced around like a pinball for a few centuries after the Whitaker regeneration before landing.
    And we know it was the Ghost Monument for 400 of those years.
    Although, yeah, it can regenerate itself, it should be prettier.
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  25. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    Dayton has a YouTube channel?
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  26. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    It's a deliberate choice I suspect, looks more similar to the early series.
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  27. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Having been in a few different online communities since the late 90s it is interesting to see how they have developed differently. In the game modding communities for example while people used pseudonyms a lot were open about their real identities since many people got work out of it. Means that they haven't really changed over the past 20 years.
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  28. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    'scuse me, but "Kill the Moon" had some wonderful guest stars, including Tony Osoba (in his third appearance on Who - you could look it up), and one of my favorite tough-girl Brit actors, Hermione Norris (q.v. MI-5 or Spooks or whatever they're calling it across the Pond), and that annoying little twit Courtney, who proved she had moxie as well as smarts, so I liked it. Silly premise, but sometimes the acting makes up for it. :dendroica:
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    I didn't have a problem with the premise of Kill the Moon, the execution was terrible and any script editor worth their salt could easily have made into a stand-out episode.

    The biggest problem was the moon was an egg for a physical entity, I think I've said before, have it as an energy being. Explains why the 'new' moon doesn't change, mainly as it isn't new, and offers plenty of scope for humour.

    "All those rainbows... It's beautiful"
    "Unusual to hear someone waxing lyrical over some afterbirth"
    "Afterbirth? Moment ruined."

    Half an hour with some tipp-ex was all it needed.
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  30. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    "tipp-ex"??
    Is that what we call white-out?
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