Drug Lobby Wins Again in Washington...

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Xerafin, May 8, 2007.

  1. Storm

    Storm Plausibly Undeniable

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    Wrong.

    "Your need does not constitute a just claim on anyone else's property. My needs do not constitute a just claim on anyone else's property. Keep your fucking hands off and mind your own business, and I'll do the same for you."

    That's what I'm saying.
  2. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    I fail to see how this has anything whatsoever to do with the U.S. government's complicity in keeping drug prices inflated.
  3. Storm

    Storm Plausibly Undeniable

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    And where have I supported this?

    Point to the instance and you'll never pay another doctor's bill again.
  4. Xerafin

    Xerafin Unmoderated & off-center

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    ^^

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  5. Order2Chaos

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    Not when it comes time to campaign season, especially if the increase is significant. 100-101 or even 110 might not do too much damage, but I think anything over a 25%-50% increase will. Yes, even after a 75% decrease no matter how large numerically it is. Percentages work wonders in advertising. Ask 100 2% milk drinkers what percent whole milk is, and I guarantee you more than half will say 40%, because 2% advertises as 38% less fat than whole milk, even though the answer is 3.5%.

    As for the claim made earlier that a NAFTA complaint will work, I seriously doubt it. There's enough price floors and price ceilings in both countries that I'd be very surprised if one is at all actionable.
  6. Storm

    Storm Plausibly Undeniable

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    I'll take garamet's silence to mean she agrees that Liet is a lowlife sack of shit lying mama's boy.

    :bergman:
  7. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    :nyer:

    (A) You know it exists and you aren't resisting it

    (B) You're interpreting the Senate's refusal to do anything about it as an instance of support for "fair market value"
  8. Storm

    Storm Plausibly Undeniable

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    Evidence?

    Show me.
  9. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    *Pokes head in*
    I haven't said anything in this thread in awhile.

    ....well, bye. :)

    *Pulls head out*
  10. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    ^Roger that. Storm, I've got a dinner date. Continue this tomorrow...
  11. Storm

    Storm Plausibly Undeniable

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    Insignificant people without imagination -- the small people who have no hope and no place in life but to disappoint their fathers -- people like you Liet, can't comprehend the notion that there are those out there who live life to its fullest, who achieve and dream and dare and aspire and laugh and love and who never stop winning.

    And yet there are people on this very board who know that the person I present here is, indeed, my real self. There are people on this board who I know in real life who are heroes, and dreamers and doers. People who, like me, espouse and live by the very principles they showcase here.

    And it tasks you. It eats you alive. It gnaws at your soul. You have to force yourself to pretend to some fiction where everyone is as low and unimportant and uninspiring as you are.

    People like you, Liet, are only happy when you can pretend to drag people down to your own pathetic level. And yet you only do so in your own empty mind.

    We only exist at your low, base level in your fevered, sad imagination.

    In real life, we tread the earth like giants and laugh at adversity. I see it in so many -- in fact all -- of the people here I know in real life.

    How very sad for you. How achingly melancholy.

    Perhaps your best course is to screw up the courage you've lacked in every other aspect of your life, and find it to seek the machination of ending your life. It would be your one act of achievement.

    Go. Achieve this one thing. End your father's shame. End your pain. End your existence.

    For gods and giants walk the earth. And you will never tread among us.

    In short, lock yourself in a closet with a Luger and do the right thing.

    :bergman:
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  12. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Ah, what a magnificent day.
    For the first time in years, I haven't been bored once.
    :D
  13. Liet

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    Yeah, that's about the substantive content of every post you've made for the last several years.

    Storm doesn't have even the vaguest concept of what a free market is, and therefore supports the reimportation ban as something allegedly effecting a free market, and then he gets all pissy and whiny and juvenile when his betters lecture him and tell him that government price supports do not a free market make.

    I've got a question for wordforge: why does anyone take Storm seriously, much less treat him as though he were admirable? His internet persona is that of an utterly despicable, always raving human being, incapable of understanding his own positions, much less making an argument in support of them. He has no substance at all, merely loudly stating his position without argument or support and insulting or rounding up a posse against those who deign to take public notice. He's Ann Coulter, without the charm and sanity. So why does anyone take him and his persona any more seriously or treat him as any more admirable than JohnM?
  14. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    He comes up with some great, novel solutions to the world's problems. :D
  15. Storm

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    As if we needed further proof the mama's boy is incapable of honesty.

    Seriously, you should probably kill yourself.

    :bergman:
  16. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    I thought storm said somewhere on the first page or two that he opposed the ban, since it represented a government interference in the market. I'm pretty sure that was in there. It's O2C who bizarely countenances the ban as somehow less evil than a lifting, on the basis that Canada meddles, why shouldn't the U.S.?

    Anyway, correction offered, but both of you should continue with the insults, it's fun for the gallery!

    :evilpop:
  17. marathon

    marathon Calm Down, Europe...

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    I'd sooner respect someone who holds despicable ideas than hypocritical ones :soma:
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  18. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Quite right -- storm may be despicable, but he is no hypocrite.
  19. Storm

    Storm Plausibly Undeniable

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    Aw shucks, y'all.

    I'm choking up here. Thank you.

    :bergman:
  20. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    That's it?
    Liet lets out a mouth fart, and Storm waves it away with a flourish?
    Dammit, I wanted buses with Evita signs thrown about, and neon Coke signs blown up.
  21. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    The only thing wrong with Liet is his status as a Yankee fan. I simply can't fogive that, no matter what.
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  22. ehrie

    ehrie 1000 threads against me

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    Tex over again, huh? :bergman:
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  23. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Okay, where were we?

    Okay, first of all, don’t include me in “you people.” This didn’t happen on my watch. I never voted for it, and I doubt any of my Congresspeople did, either.

    Secondly, this:

    is the first time in this thread you’ve said any such thing. And it doesn’t quite gibe with this:

    I.e. fuck you, not-my-problem complacency. Or this:

    “Gubmint’s already done it, nothing I can do about it” complacency. Or this:

    Ditto. Or this:

    Implied complicity with insurers’ attitude that they should only cover healthy people. Whereas this:

    is just the usual Storm bluster. Leave that to Ramen, please. It’s all he’s got.

    So tell me again how “I don’t give a shit” translates to “I want all existing regulations, taxes, tariffs and restrictions lifted. On drugs and everything else.”
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  24. BearTM

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    An average yield of 3% annually is strong evidence AGAINST there being any "artificial price inflation" on the part of the drug companies.
  25. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    :jayzus:
  26. Ash

    Ash how 'bout a kiss?

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    True story: I'm at a sports bar watching the Astros play some good old pure NL ball. This smoking hot waitress comes up to me to take my order and says "Oh, are you watching baseball? I LOVE baseball. I had to dump my last boyfriend cause he wouldn't watch it with me!"

    At this point, I'm preparing knock down the rest of my beer, fling myself to my knees and propose marriage. Then she hits me with this: "I hate NL ball though. It's so boring. I'm gonna go see if they'll put on the Yankees game.":nuke::sob:

    She got a shitty tip:spaceturk:
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  27. Order2Chaos

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    Indeed. It's evidence that Canada is forcing drug companies to sell at a loss.
  28. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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  29. BearTM

    BearTM Bustin' a move! Deceased Member

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    I'm beginning to suspect that Garamet doesn't actually know how corporate profitability is measured.
  30. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    And I'm already convinced that The Listkeeper thinks that the ticker tells the whole tale.