Enough with the "Who Let the Dogs Out"...Thank you, Kathy Ireland!!

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  1. Eminence

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    Kathy Ireland, beauty and brains!!

    The behavior she condemns, in fact, reminds me of the immaturity of so many Obama supporters who had their "Bros before Hos" and "Sarah Palin is a CUNT" tshirts and signs.

    Or when Obama’s Chief Speechwriter, Jon Favreau, now his White House Chief speechwriter, had a photo taken of him groping the breast of a Hillary Clinton life-size cutout. Which btw, when he put on his Facebook page, and was still able to keep his job....it told us EXACTLY what we needed to know about Obama and the kind of people Obama lets speak for him.

    That said, I must commend Kathy for speaking out against this...and what a shame that Democrats can't be this self-reflective.

    Well said, Kathy.

    I especially agree with your comment that the candidates themselves must hold their supporters and campaign teams responsible to their own ethical standards, or else people will assume such excess are themselves what the candidates stand for.

    Excellent metric by which to hold all parties and candidates accountable.
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  2. RickDeckard

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    If you give a shit about that sort of thing, you have a problem. Politicians ought to be judged by their policies and their performance in office.
  3. Dayton Kitchens

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    It doesn't work that way nor should it Rick.

    A man's character is his destiny.
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  4. RickDeckard

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    What in the flying fuck does that mean?
    You can't just stuff two important sounding words into a sentence and expect it to say something.
  5. Ward

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    I certainly don't always agree with Eminence but personal character is very important in a politician. It says a lot about what kind of person you as a voter are willing to entrust with a great deal of power and responsibility. For someone in this position to go public with this kind of thing shows a lack of intelligence and common sense I would think a politician would want to emphasize, especially in this position.
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  6. Ward

    Ward A Stepford Husband

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    The fact that you even have to ask the question says a lot, Rick. :rolleyes:
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  7. RickDeckard

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    Yeah, it says that I consider it meaningless mumbo-jumbo.
  8. Chest Rockwell

    Chest Rockwell I'm a big fuckin' dick.

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    Gee, he's been caught with his hand in the cookie jar and been caught cheating on his wife. I'm sure he'll be a perfectly honest politician.
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  9. Dayton Kitchens

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    It means that regardless of policies or positions of a politician, they like most people have their destinies determines by the strengths and weaknesses of their characters.

    By and large, you do not have deeply flawed people become great leaders.
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  10. RickDeckard

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    Absolute nonsense. History is replete with "great leaders" who had enormous personal flaws.

    Not that fooling around with a cardboard cut-out even qualifies as that. :rolleyes:
  11. Ward

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    Everybody has flaws of course. I don't think anyone here is naive enough to believe that they don't. But people that can't handle small responsibilities with integrity generally can't be trusted with larger ones. (There's a comment here to be made about a part-time Senator who can't do much beyond voting present before he runs for president, but I'm still on the concept of ethics.)
  12. Dayton Kitchens

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    "personal flaws" and weak characters are not necessarily the same thing.

    King David was openly called "a man after God's own heart" despite being guilty of adultery and murder.
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  13. Eminence

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    Gee, thanks for that mindless platitude. :rolleyes: Still, if you want to make it about performance, then note: the question here is of performance as a manager. What kind of manager would continue to employ such a child, let alone make him his ghostwriter, the scribe behind voice? After a few years with Obama now, the best thing that can be said about him is that "He had a few good sentences." That's it. And the person behind those sentences? Well, it's obvious what kind of person he is.

    But the final evaluation of course, rests with Obama. It is the sign of a poor manager when he is not able to keep his own employees in check, when he implicitly condones such obviously condemnable actions vis a vis keeping people like Jon Favreau under his employ. Is it any wonder then that so many people in the Obama WH are running for the hills, looking for the emergency exit, anything they can do to get off that trainwreck? Is it any wonder then, that so many Democratic candidates are now running ads that actually denounce Obama's Presidential record, emphasizing that they were not actually for what the President was for? I don't think so.

    Also, just for fun, I will return your meaningless statement with one of the wanna be Blackie O's statements (and before anybody takes me to task over this, know that Michelle Obama calls herself Blackie O) -- "If you can't clean up your own house, how can you run the White House?"

    I find that statement quite apt, when considering Obama's lack of leadership, management, and executive skills.
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    A "weakness" and a "flaw" is the same thing, your hairsplitting nothwithstanding. Historical leaders have posessed these things in spades. Anyone appearing or professing not to possess such is claiming not to be a human being and is to be mistrusted.

    And fuck King David. Another fine example of biblical immorality.
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    I don't. Obama's has been horrible.
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    Speaking of prejudice...

    Anyone know who made the video? Would it still be "misogyny" if a woman is responsible for it? :chris:
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  18. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    You're not odd-shaped at all Kathy. No, ma'am. Not at all. :wub:
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    In my profession we have a saying that our behaviour must be "conduct becoming a [lawyer]". That doesn't just include what we do on the job, it also includes things that bring our character into disrepute.

    It is foolish to tink that public image and impression does not form part of the political process.

    Although, I have to say that I find it laughable that Dayton disagrees with you when he lives with a romanticised delusion that someone as loathed by people as him can win over majority opinion in the political process.
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    Why do candidates spot light their families when running if character was not important. We can see a lot about a man's character in how he interacts with his family and how is family acts in public. It shows what he truly values. A child in public is a representation of his father. "Honor thy Father and Mother" isn't just a Christian ideal and just as you would expect a respected man to chastise his misbehaving child, I would expect ANY leader to tourniquet the disgusting behavior of anyone representing him.
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    Hence the difference between what is and what ought to be.
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    Richard Nixon was widely disliked even among members of his own party yet managed to be elected president twice.

    He only fell from power due to his excessive paranoia and desire for control.

    We call that a "character flaw".
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    She loses me right there. We don't live in a democracy and I'm tired of people ignorant of the most basic lessons of American civics saying it. :bailey:

    Kathy should have stuck to swimsuit issue covers- it's what she's good at.
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  25. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Oh, hell, I don't give a shit what she says at all.
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    Same here.


    Unless she's making animal noises. :fun:
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    Jamey Whistler Éminence grise

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    "Bark like a dog. Oh Mrs. Ireland, you're a little monkey woman. Yeah, you're lean, mean, and I bet you're not too far in between are ya. How'd you like to wrap your spikes around my head..."
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  28. Chest Rockwell

    Chest Rockwell I'm a big fuckin' dick.

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    But she's a B-List Celebrity! A B-LIST CELEBRITY!!!
  29. Eminence

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    It was the webmaster of one of the Senate District websites:


    IMO, absolutely. Women can be guilty of misogyny toward other women, or sometimes...in particularly sad acts of self hatred...toward themselves.