FOR FRAK'S SAKE THIS IS GOING TOO PEECEE FRAKKING FAR!!

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  1. Megatron

    Megatron Banned

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    THIS IS ABSOLUTELY IDIOTIC!

    :bang:

    Idiot Extreme Liberals are fucking up this country one bit at a time!!

    F*****s ruining it all even more!!

    :mad: :jayzus: :doh: :shitstorm:
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  2. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    So, let me get this straight...you're not objecting to the FDA's decision to categorically refuse blood donations from gay men - which they've done for over a decade now - only to anyone's protesting this decision.

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  3. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Hm. Morons on both sides.
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  4. Tamar Garish

    Tamar Garish Wanna Snuggle? Deceased Member

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    People could die due to this sort of protest.

    Get the latest findings, prove the restriction is outdated and lobby, lobby, lobby.

    Don't stop all blood donations because of hurt feelings...health care should not be an area touched by PC or hate, IMO.
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  5. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    People have probably died because gay men and people with tattoos have been turned away from donation centers.
  6. Megatron

    Megatron Banned

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    HUH?

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  7. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    ^Why exactly did you post this article?
  8. Megatron

    Megatron Banned

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    SAY WHAT?

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  9. Megatron

    Megatron Banned

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    BECAUSE I CAN JUST LIKE I CAN POST IN HUUUGE FARKING LETTERS!!

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  10. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Oh, see, now here I was thinking maybe you had a purpose or a point to make. When will I learn?
  11. Jeff Cooper Disciple

    Jeff Cooper Disciple You've gotta be shittin' me.

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    And people have been saved by not getting blood borne diseases carried by high risk groups when those groups have been categorically denied access to donation.

    Want to donate blood? Don't fuck a stranger at the bath house or get a tattoo.
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  12. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    From the article it looks like even if the restrictions were changed the tattoo thing would still apply since that is a 12 month restriction the same as they are proposing for sexual activity.
  13. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Donated blood goes through rigorous testing. The FDA ruling is legal CYA, nothing more.

    And trust you to buy into the "all gay men frequent bath houses" stereotype.
  14. Jeff Cooper Disciple

    Jeff Cooper Disciple You've gotta be shittin' me.

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    There's a whole list of things that get people disqualified from giving blood. Certain medications, visiting certain countries overseas, living in certain overseas areas, certain organ transplants, and yes, even behavior based disqualifications exist. These cocksmokers are just upset that the Red Cross is more concerned with not getting contaminated blood than they are about being inclusive.
  15. Tamar Garish

    Tamar Garish Wanna Snuggle? Deceased Member

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    You can get Hepatitis among other things from getting a tattoo if the artist isn't as hygenic as you think they are.

    And like it or not, gay men tend to catch stuff more easily...probably because it is not difficult to tear the anus and rectum and give infected semen a nice direct route to the bloodstream.

    It isn't about hate...it's about risk factors.
  16. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    F*****s....

    Furries?

    Fuzzies?

    Furbies?

    Flunkys?

    Flowbys?
  17. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Yes, aware of all of that.

    Make that "presumed behavior-based" disqualifications.

    People who practice safe sex are low risk. That's the only question that needs to be asked there.

    My, what a liberal-minded little pornographer you are.
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    So no to fag blood.
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    Chuck Go Giants!

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    Chuck Go Giants!

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    Forbins?
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Anyone who practices safe sex is low risk.

    Anyone who engages in unprotected anal sex - anyone - is at risk.

    That's the only question that needs to be asked.
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    This is true.

    I'm prone to anemia and I also take Coumadin...I can't give blood.

    And for perspective...the UK has the same restictions:

    https://secure.blood.co.uk/vi_c11_cant.asp

    Hateful Brits!
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  23. phil_r

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    Gay men engage in high-risk sexual behavior. That is not a stereotype. It is overwhelmingly true for that particular demographic.

    It takes about 3-4 weeks for a person who has become infected with HIV to seroconvert. "Seroconversion" is the point at which the virus becomes detectable in the blood. But an infected person can pass on the virus in semen or blood before seroconversion. And 3-4 weeks is only an average, which means that it can take a few days to seroconvert, or a few months.

    The Red Cross has good reasons for using social criteria to pre-screen potential donors. I, personally, would hate to be on the receiving end of a blood transfusion from a non-seroconverted donor.

    As civil rights go, gays should not be denied. But this is not a civil rights issue. It is a public health issue.
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  24. BearTM

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    And yet people still get HIV, Hepatitis, and other nasties from blood transfusions on a regular basis.
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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    There's multiple of him?

    Good gawd, could you just imagine it?

    An army of him, building a fleet of model Enterprises...a toxic cloud of model glue blotting the sun....

    *Shiver*
  26. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    In the U.S.?
  27. BearTM

    BearTM Bustin' a move! Deceased Member

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    Yep.
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    Seeing as I can't give blood anyway (inherited blood irregularity), I'm not exactly worried about this, on a personal level anyway.

    I do think more research should be done to allow any safe donors who are willing and able to donate, just not at the risk of infection.
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  29. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    That seems to be the purpose of this protest. Possibly there might have been another way to go about it, but the inequities should be addressed.
  30. BearTM

    BearTM Bustin' a move! Deceased Member

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    So, we should make the system more complex and increase risk to "address inequities"?