For Once I Completely Agree With The White House.

I suspect that is the intent unfortunately, the timing is too coincidental for this latest push on this issue.

Yeah. You'd think they would've gotten around to this by, say, the Hoover Administration if it was really that important. To bring this up while a war's going on is either deliberate undermining or unbelievable irresponsibility.

You are right about punishing people for the actions of their fathers. I demand no punishing. However, it would be cool if the Turks aknowledge that this Genocide happened, but they don't. On contrary, they go for your throat and try to kill you for "hating Turkey"! It's this nationalistic behaviour I detest. It would be so simple for Turkey: Accept that shit happened, stop denying it. That's all.

To the Americans here: "Realpolitik" is not as important as the horrible murder of at least one million people. I understand that Turkey is an important ally in the war against terror. However, there is no need to suck Turkey's dick just because you need them for your airbases and your logistics. As I said, it's all about the dignity of the victims. It is NOT about "guilt". If the Turks finally accepted that the Armenian Genocide DID happen, everything would be ok, and the victims could rest in peace. It's about morals, not Realpolitik. All this appeasement is disturbing. You are pissing on the graves of the one million victims here.

It is my understanding that to have "genocide" there must be intent.

Given that conditions of deprivation and starvation also existed among the Turkish military forces at that point, the fact that large numbers of displaced Armenians also died from similiar problems would indicate that the majority of Armenians died NOT from the direct, intended actions of the Turks but from simply the general conditions present at that time.

Lots of people dying does not necessarily indicate geocide occurring.

^Why do you play down the Armenian Genocide? It is a historical fact. Muslims killed one million Christians. Why are you not upset? Just because Turkey is your ally right in this moment? The Armenian Genocide happened, and beside the Holocaust, it was the most severe crime against mankind in the 20th century. Check your sources, you are wrong. Denying the Armenian Genocide is as stupid and evil as denying the Holocaust.

Genocide requires intent.

And we've had more deadly mass killings than the Armenian or the Holocaust in the 20th century.

^Rhetorics. You are pissing on the graves of the victims just because of "Realpolitik". Disgusting. Fuck the six million dead jews then... It never happened.

Nobody denies that the Armenians died, what's debatable is how much intent there was in their deaths and who was responsible. Modern Turkey didn't exist then.
As I've already said, it's regrettable that modern Turkey won't even acknowledge the deaths, but in the great scheme of things, there's bigger evils out there waiting to be dealt with.

Yes, six million Jews died. But were today's Germans responsible? No. I've said many times before, I have nothing for which to apologise in the actions of the British empire builders because I had no control over it. I admit it happened, but I'd never apologise for it: it isn't my place so to do.

And except in the very few cases where someone can prove that their family once owned something that still exists and was stolen from them, reparations are a crock of shit.

IMHO.

Congress is irrelevant. They will be assimilated.

That's where I am on it too. Acknowledging it will do nothing to bring back my relatives that were killed and lost during that time. What is important is that the US was here and provided assistance to those who were refugees during that time. That is how my family came to this country.

Because it didn't happen to Americans. And to Dayton, if things don't happen to Americans they don't matter.

It's time for our lawmakers to get back to more important things...like condeming that moveon.org ad.

Actually that is incorrect. Many Armenians who migrated here during that time were very much affected by the genocide. Any Armenian in the US today that lost a loved one, a relative, a friend was affected by that genocide.