If there was ever a place where the twin maxims "some folks just need killin'" and "nuke 'em from orbit" literally applied....
They need to figure out a way to double the damages from the suit he lost. I take some solace in the realization that, as we speak, they're constructing a whole new circle of Hell just for Phelps. I sorta wonder what it'll have.
Fred Phelps and his followers are a problem for me: I am seriously tempted to fall into the very trap which I despise so strongly in their behavior, that of hating and condemning people for beliefs and practices of which I do not approve. I know that what they really need is to discover the true message of Jesus Christ, the message of love and forgiveness and transformed lives. But it is very hard not to simply wish for them to be killed, violently. Which would put me in the exact same boat as them. I struggle with this every time I hear more about them. I guess that I, too, still have much more to learn about the Man from Galilee who said "I have come to save and not to condemn."
Dude, you're waaaaaaaay too forgiving. If for no other reason, I would dislike these people because these whackaloons make all sincere Christians like yourself look bad.
Hell, no I don't want his church burned down, or him beaten, or anything bad to happen to him or his. If anything happens to those assholes they immediately become martyrs in the cuase of free speech.
Sorry, can't help it. I learned it from someone who paid an unthinkable price in order to make forgiveness possible, even for the very people who killed him. And he has been after me for years and years now, ever since I understood his love myself, to encourage me to show that same grace to others. Whereas I would prefer to say I dislike (or even despise) their behavior, rather than the people themselves. All the bad things that can be said about their attitude are not enough to describe how awful and unacceptable it is. Nevertheless, the very fact that their attitude is so totally different from that of Jesus, whom they pretend to promote, shows how much they need grace. Sure, they deserve to be rejected from God forever. But so do I. Yet God's message is about grace, the undeserved favor he extends to the most awful sinners. The grace that saved me, even though I don't deserve it. I would love to see Fred Phelps and his people discover that same grace. But it is still hard, sometimes, to limit my hate to their behavior, and not stray over the line into hating the people themselves.
Fred Phelps is the Pastor of the Westboro Baptist Church. His church has perhaps seventy members. The vast majority of which are his family. He is seventy-eight years old. His message seems to consist of blaming homosexuality and its acceptance for all the evils of the world. Every misfortune, regardless of scope, is affirmation from god that he is right. Yeah the flaw in his logic is pretty obvious. "God hates fig newtons, that's why the Patriots lost the Superbowl!" Protesting fig newtons at funerals would make as much sense. At best he is but another senile man looking for some sort of legacy before dying; A confused man wanting attention. Though it is possible he is simply a hateful person who wants attention before he checks out. Either way he tends to draw the same reactions; He is dismissed, unknown, reviled, ridiculed and soon to be forgotten by most everyone. Ain't no point in wishing him ill, he doesn't merit the effort.
These nutcases wouldn't be half as well-known as they are if not for the sensationalistic and tabloid-driven media that decided a couple of years ago to start advertising every word that drools from their mouths. These loons thrive on attention and publicity. Them appearing on Hannity & Colmes does nothing but legitimize and mainstream them, as though they're people that we *should* be paying attention to, rather than leaving them as the fringe cult they are. Of course, I feel the same way about Focus on the Family, Pat Robertson, and the rest of the fundie charlatans who appoint themselves guardians of public morality.
I'd be perfectly okay with the Fred Phelps and Pat Robertsons of the world being on the talking head shows if all that ever happened was they were held up for public ridicule. Eventually they'd stop showing up or they'd keep being made into great entertainment. Either result is okay with me.
Yeah, that was my thought. They've already gone after dead high school students, dead soldiers, dead presidents, the dead wife of a televangelist, and Mr. Rogers. A dead college student is pretty much more of the same.
I used to think that Phelps was a loon, deserving of scorn. However, after they started the funeral protests and seeing how much pain they cause to the families, I'd like to see the whole Phelps clan wiped off the face of the earth. Given their level of indoctrination, I'd include the children, too. That may make me a bad man, but I don't really care.
Nah; what would make you a bad man is doing the deed yourself or offering material support to whoever did it. Popping a bottle of champagne when you hear the news and taking a pilgrimage to piss on Phelps' grave would just make you human.
"I went insane. My hatred exploded. And in an instant of grief...I destroyed the Husnock!" "No, no, no, no, you don't understand the scope of my crime. I didn't kill just one Husnock, or a hundred, or a thousand. I killed them all. All Husnock, everywhere."
Truthfully with deep introspect (it's Sunday) I am torn. Part of me wishes them all to die in a fire and the other is brought forth by the proper teachings demonstrated by Async.
Such a notion implies that Phelps and his cohort are human. I believe them to be an (as yet) undiscovered species of hominid, closely related to homo sapiens sapiens, but instead of developing with the rest of us, they developed from a very tiny group of primates who immigrated to KY 15,000 year ago and escaped Native American hunting parties. Unfortunately, due to their small number, their descendants are merely genetic inferiors who have more in common with albino apes, than people. As such, if someone were to up and kill the whole lot, I'd rather just see them charged with killing off an endangered species. Fine them $100 and just let them mail it into their local courthouse.