Hey Dayton, the first step to the Presidency has been taken!

If you don't understand how it is then you are a very stupid man indeed. Case in point, your use of the word "advantage". I suppose that's taken out of context as well, eh?

All that is true - but you fail to understand that those rules do not exist to give you an advantage.

It is a dishonourable tactic and you are not a politician.

The only place it properly deserves to be used is in the course of litigation. But who is it you see yourself as fighting? Is everyone here you opponent?

I have no interest in going off and Googling information about strangers in a sport I don't follow. Either you are able to summarise and explain how it addresses my post or you are not.

So you're saying that minor loss of temper is insignificant. You smacked your wife over a minor loss of temper, that could very well cause concern for a potential employer. They would wonder "What will he do if get really pissed off?".

Nate Newton was an offensive lineman for the Dallas Cowboys. The protect the QB and block for the running backs.

Newton was particularly known for playing better against the better opponents.

If he was playing against poor or mediocre players, he would play slow, lazy, and barely do his job.

But.

When he encountered top of the line opposition (like his battles against Hall of Fame defensive lineman Reggie White of Philadelphia) Newton would play dramatically better. So much better that he would actually outplay future Hall of Famers.

In other words, Newton played down (and up) to his level of opposition.

Thus, being an ineffectual debater against internet nonentities does NO imply being ineffectual against professional, veteran politicians running for office.

Some people play to the level of opposition.

As I believe I've said AT THAT TIME-significant.

But after 11 years, obviously insignificant as it was obviously a non repeated aberration. An outlier.

What I know is that while you may not have said scum (and we have no proof you didn't) using the phrases morally inferior and scum are equally designed to denote the divorcee as being of negative standing. So what is taken out of context?

No, frankly I don't. That's like saying that rape or murder ceases to be as grave the more time passes. If that were the case why do we still prosecute cases from decades ago? And, again, how was this comment taken out of context from what you said?

I was being facetious woith my suggestions that you were, deliberately to illustrate that your claims that you have been taken out of context are unfounded. For a man of your supposed great intelligence and wisdom I am surprised you were unable to spot that.

So you're saying that everyone here is your intellectual inferior, despite many of us having more successful careers and better educations than you?

If you are so capable of playing to the higher crowd, why have you yet to do so?

Wow. I really don't want to get into the domestic violence issue yet again, but you really have no idea of the true cost of that kind of a breach of trust between a man and wife do you? Right here is why people loathe you and why you are most certainly NOT the intellectual superior of the people here or, frankly, most of the people I have encountered in my life.

1) Last paragraph. I'm not sure I understand your point.

2) Middle paragraph. Murders are prosecuted years after the fact. Obviously as murders inflict permanent damage to the individuals and permanent losses to the family and society.

Few other crimes are prosecuted decades after the fact due to statutes of limitations.

3) The term "scum" is obviously designed to be inflammatory and insulting and to provoke a visceral reaction. Again, I'm pretty certain you know that.

Actually no, I'm quite certain many here are my intellectual equal and some are my superior. I've come to realize this after many years.

But intellectual superiority does not automatically imply that those who are on that level choose to debate topics at that level. Some people probably come here just to kick back and relax.

They might be intellectually superior, but they might simply choose to post pictures of breasts.

Thus, while intellectually superior people might well post here, that doesn't mean the level of debate occurs at that level.

In regards to your last sentence have you ever heard of the saying

"In the world, there is far more talent than opportunities"

But I thought you were lowering yourself to debate with us? Surely you should be able to grasp anything us mentally disabled fools say considering you are more than capable of playing to the higher crowd?

The point is that the crime itself does not decrease on severeity just because time passes. Besides the key question I asked you, which you have avoided again (more evidence of cowardice) is how what was posted on Twitter was out of context. You are now making the case that your wife beating is indeed minor and insignificant. So the Twitter account didn't actually lie at all did it?

I know that it is no more insulting than "divorcees are morally inferior", and equally inflammatory comment that is also likely to provoke a reaction, which someone of your vast mental abilities should realise.

So, if that's the case, how come you aren't raising your game against them and otherwise convincing the rest of WF that you are correct and worth defending?

Thus, while intellectually superior people might well post here, that doesn't mean the level of debate occurs at that level.[/quote]
Right, so you're saying that those who you deem to be equal or inferior never bother to debate anything in detail here, so therefore you have nothing to compete with? That's awfully convenient wouldn't you say? Oh, and who here actually only comes here to post pictures of boobs and the like?

What a load of crap. What's preventing you joining a political party and then working your way up if you want to be involved in politics. You don't have to wait for the chance to join. You're just excuse making for your failures and lack of effort....as usual.

"What some people see as their potential is often their pinnacle."

It has been my experience that people are much more likely to feel insulted by being called something using a noun than an adverb/adjective combination. Not sure why.

By failing to put the "11 years ago" point along with "minor and insignificant" is obviously implies that I believe that kind of conduct is always "minor and insignificant". It is out of context.

For example, let's say you are talking about a married couple and you say

1) "That man cheated on his wife with three different women." That automatically implies that the man is a jerk and their marriage is not a good one.

2) Then add on "of course this is their 50 anniversary and that was over 45 years ago". That additional comment puts the former in a completely different perspective. Obviously the couple's marriage got considerably better or it wouldn't have lasted another four and a half decades.

Right, so you're saying that those who you deem to be equal or inferior never bother to debate anything in detail here, so therefore you have nothing to compete with? That's awfully convenient wouldn't you say? Oh, and who here actually only comes here to post pictures of boobs and the like?

What a load of crap. What's preventing you joining a political party and then working your way up if you want to be involved in politics. You don't have to wait for the chance to join. You're just excuse making for your failures and lack of effort....as usual.[/quote]

1) Too much history with people here to bother. I can make a good point about an issue and if it is the least controversial someone will chime in "but you slapped your wife".

And I believe you know this is what would happen.

2) Never is too broad a statement. I'm more comfortable with "often"

3) You can believe what you wish in that regard.

I'm sure this is true.


For some people.

There are plenty of marriages that have not gone to divorce because there were children or because the wife or husband couldn't support themselves. Many marriages remain because the alternative is worse, or the wife is afraid to leave the husband. It doesn't mean that it was a good marriage.

It is my experience that people are far more likely to insulted over the substance and meaning than they are the choice of words...and I am sure of why.

Saving that this "11 years ago" crap is something you have invented after the fact to try and pretend there was context. Well, this was where the minor and insignificant comes from.....

It's quoted, ironically by me, in your Greatest Hits thread.

As you can see it was a rep comment and it didn't say anything about the passage of time. So stop pretending you are taken out of context.

I can see you have just as poor a grasp of the damage that cheating does as you do domestic violence. The passage of time does not repair things. What's done it done. Trust has been breached and, unless the abused or cheated on spouse is incredibly stupid, there will always be that element of doubt that would otherwise not be there but for the original incident. That is why it can never be regarded as minor and insignificant, and I have to say that personally, for me, the passage of time spin that you are now trying to hide behind does in no way reduce the severity of he original incident even after all these years. A man who hits a woman is one of the very worst kinds of human beings.

Oh no, you can't hide behind that. Let's take a recent example. You twice cited the killing of 2 million people by Saddam Hussein (and no I don't want a debate about that in this thread). I tried to debate that comment in detail but you ran away. I had to keep asking over and over, but still no response. Finally when it came up again I got a marginal response to about one or two of the questions I put to you. At no point did wife beating come up - and I have even gone to the extent of trying to play things your way by significantly dialing back my use of profanity when responding to your posts. The real truth is that you are unable to debate properly. You are nothing more than a personal who likes to make statements, but doesn't have the intellectual strength to consider alternate views or counter arguments. In other words you are a one dimensional thinker.

No, I don't think it always does at all - and the only reason the wife beating still gets brought up is because of your lack of remorse over it and lack of understanding of it's consequences.

I don't know what these are referring to since there were no enumerated paragraphs in the post you replied to.

^I appreciate your trying to dial back the profanity.

I didn't address your argument about Saddam Hussein because it seemed nonsensical. It seemed to be basically "Saddam Hussein killed lots of those people while supported by the U.S. so we couldn't oppose anything Saddam Hussein did during that tie period".

Which seemed ridiculous to me.

The funny thing is, I suspect most of us play down to him.

Well, as I said above, I literally already do, adhering to his whining about profanity and so forth. He's just too fucking dumb to spot it.

Hence why few people buy into the nuclear family bullshit anymore. People just talked less about their personal fucking business, and many newlyweds conveniently conceived on the honeymoon and gave birth to eight pound preemies seven months later. All the shit Dayton prides himself on are all lies. Must be sad.

I really would like to have seen how that conversation with Dayton and Twitter went down in trying to halt the dummy account.

"Yes, well you see I do say and believe all these horrible things but it's not me saying it in this particular instance...."

Either that or he deliberately lied that they were all lies.....to complain about someone, um, lying about him.

Ya know, like the good Christian he is...

Well, he did say....

All someone needs is a cheap website hosted in a foreign country...they don't give a shit if people whine about what's on the sites. TK was hosted in France for awhile for that very reason.

Then a whole book of quotes and a photo album could be posted and there is not a single thing he could do about it.

More importantly for many posters, the White Room could return come back.

After all these years...