India vs. Pakistan "Hot War" over Kashmir

Looks like India has actually gone ahead and launched air strikes against Pakistan!

Link:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/26/india/india-pakistan-line-of-control-incursion-intl/index.html

That's too bad. I've always been sympathetic to Pakistan over their border disputes with India. In any kind of major war they don't stand a chance against India even if it didn't go nuclear.

Pakistan's stock market has plunged in response to this. Seems people are really bothered that they failed to even damage, let alone shoot down, any of the Indian aircraft.

Just last night I rewatched The West Wing episodes about a Kashmir conflict between India and Pakistan.

The nuclear winter theory advocates have suggested in the past that a nuclear exchange on the Indian subcontinent alone would be enough to trigger nuclear winter.

Of course, Carl Sagan tried to convince people that Saddam Hussein's burning oil wells in 1991 would bring on a localized "nuclear winter" so who can really say.

Oh, let the sun beat down upon my face
Stars fill my dream
I'm a traveler of both time and space
To be where I have been
Sit with elders of the gentle race
This world has seldom seen
They talk of days for which they sit and wait
All will be revealed

This one has a very real chance of going nuclear if it escalates. Defense pundits have been saying for years that this region is the hottest spot in the world for a potential nuclear exchange. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail; India and Pakistan exchange a few rounds over the Kashmir once every decade or two, it seems like.

This is the first time that one nuclear-armed state has launched an attack on the territory of another nuclear-armed state.

IIRC they have exchanged fire before after both had nuclear weapons.

And you've forgotten the border clashes between the Soviet Union and China in the 1960s.

Using air-power I should clarify.

This is Pakistan's fault. They let these terrorist groups operate in the country. What do you expect India to do? Eventually India will say enough and do something like these airstrikes.

Pakistan is foolish for letting terrorist groups operate in it's borders when those terrorist groups are poking a nuclear armed country.

11 posts in and no sweater jokes or Led Zepplin videos?

How many IRA funding exercises did the US allow back in the 70s?

You mean like this one, which apparently means "Where's the Almonds?" in the local language?

No it isn't.

I am surprised that you of all people don't remember all the various airstrikes the United States has launched against targets in Pakistan in the last 17 years.

Don't know.

Don't care.

The US and the UK weren't on each others borders. The US and the UK are not fighting over Kashmir. The US and the UK are not hostile to each other. The US and UK don't have nuclear armed missiles armed at each other.

The US and the UK are not likely to go to war with each other.

And the US government was not the one funding the IRA. In Pakistan's case not only are they, the government, funding these terrorists but they are letting them set up terrorist bases in Pakistan.

Point of order. Some people will be wondering why Kasmir matters to either India or Pakistan. Freshwater turns out to have a major role in it.

I don't think most would not count those as there were no strikes at the Pakistani government or government forces. And IIRC many if not all of those strikes were made with the unspoken (but still real) consent of the Pakistanis who of course for political reasons can't admit that.

Thanks professor but we all saw Mission Impossible - Fallout.

I didn't.

If you haven't seen ALL of the Mission Impossible films, and played every Ghost Recon game there is, are you REALLY qualified to talk about matters geopolitick? DIDN'T THINK SO!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...wn-two-indian-jets/ar-BBU8jZA?ocid=spartandhp

When aircraft are actually being shot down it indicates a much elevated level of hostilities than before.

This is gonna end well.

thank goodness on the Zep video. Kashmir is one of their worst songs. The vocals are murky and muddled!
That said....what is this red spot?

Here's a hypothetical, but first... a caveat.

No, I do not WISH for this to happen, so the usual suspects can skip the part where they come in and call me an evil, psycho asshole. Which I might be, on even-numbered days, but not here and now.

So, India and Pakistan were to nuke each other. Upwards of a billion people perish: a good 1/15th of the world's population. All that pollution that India and Pakistan produce? Not so much any more. A small, temporary 'nuclear winter' actually REDUCES global temps for a few years, restoring some sea ice, saving some polar bears and penguins, and putting a crimp in that potential 'global warming' that AOC says is going to kill us all in twelve years.

Would this actually be a GOOD thing for the planet and the gaiasphere at large?

I don't see the death of 100 million people (doubt it would ever reach a billion) ever being a good thing. Not to mention what the detonation of nuclear weapons in the open air in a relatively confined area might due to weather patterns in one of the most densely populated areas of the Earth.

Also, using nuclear weapons for the first time in almost 75 years would no doubt make the world a far, far, far more dangerous place.

Also, all that radiation blowing about would be a practical offset for any theoretical benefit of a nuclear winter.