Infanticide, Abortion Responsible for 60 Million Girls Missing in Asia

[QUOTEInfanticide, Abortion Responsible for 60 Million Girls Missing in Asia
Wednesday, June 13, 2007

By Sherry Karabin

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There is a little-known battle for survival going in some parts of the world. Those at risk are baby girls, and the casualties are in the millions each year. The weapons being used against them are prenatal sex selection, abortion and female infanticide — the systematic killing of girls soon after they are born.

According to a recent United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) State of the World Population Report, these practices, combined with neglect, have resulted in at least 60 million "missing" girls in Asia, creating gender imbalances and other serious problems that experts say will have far reaching consequences for years to come.

"Twenty-five million men in China currently can’t find brides because there is a shortage of women," said Steven Mosher, president of the Population Research Institute in Washington, D.C. "The young men emigrate overseas to find brides."

The imbalances are also giving rise to a commercial sex trade; the 2005 report states that up to 800,000 people being trafficked across borders each year, and as many as 80 percent are women and girls, most of whom are exploited.
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This is some f ucked up stuff. Not good politically at all those numbers.

Well what do you expect from a culture that only wants boys for children (especially first born) and then say only one kid per family????

Hopefully time will take care of this problem.

move to redroom please.

The world needs more hot pussy, not sausage. 'Nuff said, IMHO.

Fuck this bullshit!

Societies with too many young, unsatisfied men tend to become very aggressive at some point. I guess we'll see some results of this gender imbalance in the not-so-far future.

This is exactly the sort of thing that will prove to be China's undoing in the future.

Hmm... Only one kid allowed, and 25 million of them can't have kids unless they rape a woman.

I think it'll actually lower their enormous population a bit...

The war will pretty much lower their population.

A lot of gays?

In effect, they are already a gay society.

More likely Russian brides

Read a recent article - forget where - that speculates that low birthrates in Europe in part helps explain why they're such pussies, I mean pacifist and anti-war. When you have only one son it's especially harder to support them risking their life.

Trafficking has already become a huge problem in China. You read about it all the time. Rings that have kidnapped women to be prostitutes and sex slaves are busted all the time. Parents trying to buy baby girls so that their sons will have an "in house" wife ready to go have been written about in Asian online news sites already. Problem is, these women are being treated as the commodities and property they are. What if these little girls don't want to marry these sons when they grow up? People have been caught in vehicles with bundles of infant girls in the back. They'll buy them from rural couples. The girls end up as virtual prisoners.

You want the problem to stop? India and China must establish a social security system for the elderly. They don't exist. The rural Chinese population is massive. With the childbearing restrictions, if they don't have a son they are consigned to poverty in old age. It's not as if they can make enough for decent savings to tide them over once they can no longer operate the heavy equipment and plow fields on a regular basis. A daughter moves away and becomes part of her in-laws' family.

The dowry problem in India borders on insanity. Though they're illegal, they persist. As women have become scarce, dowries have grown in defiance of all logic. Families go bankrupt to come up with the proper payment and wedding gifts to meet the demands of the groom's family--and they still demand it in too many places. More than one daughter means severe economic hardship. Okay, we have one daughter....that's okay, but we really don't need anymore. The systems are stacked against baby girls. Curiously, though, it's not that way so much in the south of India. The type of agrarian labor required is less physical, so women can participate more. They also tend to stay closer to their birth families when they marry, so women in southern India can help out elderly parents. Consequently, the sex ratios in many southern provinces are much more in balance. Women are treated much better in southern states. It's the wealthier states in the northwest of India where the sex ratio has skewed the worst.

Because they are the ones that can afford ultransounds to determine the gender of a baby before it's born. This problem of aborting girl babies has become so prevalent that it's not illegal for a doctor to tell a patient the gender of the child before it's born, but the wealthy can throw around their money to get their way anyway.

I remember hearing something about China not hiking the tax up for a family where the firstborn is a girl so that the family can try again for a son, if they so choose.

But for the most part....

Actually, ultrasound machines are portable, Anna. They're a huge underground industry, especially in China. They'll tote those things around in the back of a van to the smallest of areas in India and China. It's illegal to tell the parents the sex of their unborn child in China, but there are numerous ways around that. In my book, "Bare Branches," the two doctors who were compiling information about prenatal sex selection in both countries spoke of their researchers actually seeing several signs in India that translated to, "Spend 50 rupees now, save 50,000 later."

In other words, that was makeshift clinic's way of saying, "Spend fifty bucks now and you'll save 50,000 'dollars/rupees' on a daughter's dowry later." The high gender imbalance in northwest India has a great deal to do with problems of caste. A daughter marrying a man beneath her is absolutely unthinkable, but the cost of marrying them off--even for wealthy families, is enormous. A daughter remaining unmarried is a huge embarrassment for a family. These are the people who will go to Bhutan and Nepal and purchase Hindu girls for 20,000 rupees when they can't find local girls anymore. Of course they'd rather receive massive amounts of money and gifts from a rich girl's family, but they'll go purchase a girl from a poorer family in neighboring countries if necessary because men can marry below themselves as long as it isn't "too low." Of course they'd rather receive a dowry, but their sons need brides.

In many rural areas the local family planning "officials" (enforcement officers) will allow a "one and a half child policy." If the first child is a girl, the family is permitted to try again. It's not unheard of to allow a family to try for a third child, but as the doctors pointed out in "Bare Branches," there's a fine imposed that's more than most families make in a year. You want a third? You have two girls already? Fine--pony up a year's income and we'll allow it. You're considered fortunate if the family planning officials allow you to have a second child without penalty if you're unlucky enough to have a daughter on your first try. Depends on what kind of mood the government's in that month, basically.

Do you support being able to abort in order to select your child's sex?

That's solely the woman's choice, and no one else's.

You sound as stupid as Volpone right now.

I'm just asking a question. Your hostility indicates you know where the answer is going to lead...

If you support abortion legally, you can't put restrictions on it legally. However, this is a discussion of ethics and the long term consequences of people who use abortion and infanticide to such a degree that the sex ratio is seriously skewed. It's not a discussion of the legality of abortion in and of itself. How do you change ingrained attitudes and beliefs? The creation of a social security system for the elderly is one solution. China and India have tried launching some programs that subsidize education for family's wiith only daughters to discourage the practices of infanticide and prenatal sex selection, but there isn't enough money in either economy to reach nearly enough people....and trust of government is low.

It's a fucked up aspect of their culture. We judge cultures which keep their women in beekeeper suits, so I say we judge those that drive themselves to extinction.

Now we see a bunch of yellers going into Siberia to carry off Russian women (I'll dig it up if properly motivated). They're nationalistic when it comes to trade, but globalist when it comes to women. Huh.

The only intervention needed here is shooting the Turks, Indians, Israelis and Chinese who try to carry off our girls on the spot right between the eyes. After a couple of years of sniping the criminals, we can bill them for the bullets and services rendered by helping balance the equation they fucked up in the first place.

Good question.

There's a huge difference between not wanting to rear a child, and not wanting to rear a child because such a characteristic as its gender.

Having hordes of unparented, unloved children is as bad for society as having only males.

Not to say I disagree with you MoulinRouge, but you do understand that Western media tries to sensationalize everything negatively that is non-Western and hype that up as the absolute truth?

The dowry system in India has been abolished for the last 30 years or so, and only a handful of poor states are were the disgusting stories come from. Most ways it is highly illegal to ask for dowries, and even the slight mentioning can get the groom's entire family in jail.

Talking of infanticide, it is true that it still happens. Surprisingly, it is not the Muslim community that it happens but the hard-line Hindu community that it happens more. Having a daughter, specially in a Kshatrya or Brahmin house is considered bad omen, specially if the first child is a daughter. However, again, that is in the hardline Hindu houses. Moderate (or most) families don't have that anymore and Indian women in many cases have more freedom than their Western counterparts.

Finally, the imbalance of gender findings is highly exaggerated. The women:men is more or less the same. Cross-border marriages happen a lot as well, so unless you live in the slums, of which about 20% of Indians live, there is no fear of gender imbalances.

Not that I think the media is perfect, but the last national census studies in 2005 tend to disagree. The ratio in China was 120:100 birthrate. That's a lot of extra boys in a country of 1 billion.

:IMHO!:

The male-only ghey future is well underway...

Semen, everywhere, flowing like wine...

If abortion is a right, then the reason does not matter. If the reason matters, it is not a right.

And people say I'm crazy when I say the US and China will go to war.

It's coming. They either start a war which drags us into it or they suffer through a massive rebellion.

Take a guess which one they will choose? Especially when they know that half this country is a bunch of pussies (ie liberals) and we fight with our hands tied behind our backs. They don't need lawyers in China to give permission for an attack on a target to happen.