Is "International Law" a meaningless concept in 2023?

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  1. 14thDoctor

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    UK ‘in violation of international law’ over poverty levels, says UN envoy

    Poverty levels in the UK are “simply not acceptable” and the government is violating international law, the United Nations’ poverty envoy has said ahead of a visit to the country this week, when he will urge ministers to increase welfare spending.

    Olivier De Schutter, the UN’s special rapporteur on extreme poverty and human rights, cited research showing universal credit payments of £85 a week for single adults over 25 were “grossly insufficient” and described the UK’s main welfare system as “a leaking bucket”.


    https://www.theguardian.com/society...-acceptable-says-un-envoy-olivier-de-schutter

    What's the UN gonna do, send in some Blue Helmets to hand out cash to the poors? Bomb the Royal Treasury in the hope that it causes money to rain down on the homeless? :shrug:
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  2. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    "International law" has always been pretty brochure-talk for what the post-WWII victors say.
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  3. Spaceturkey

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    1 GBP = $1.70 CDN.

    $580/month

    Unless they're paying the landlords directly, how exactly is someone supposed to even get on their feet with that? Pretty sure that isn't even enough rent for a room in an English city.
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  5. Steal Your Face

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    International law became meaningless right after we executed the Nazis. We didn't prosecute Bin Laden, we killed him and dumped him in the ocean.
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    Rent's a different benefit - my tenant is on bennos and her rent is £700 a month, in a town suburb. City centre rents go much higher.

    Rent benefits are capped though, although if the government got it's act together rents wouldn't be so high: high immigration + millions out on sick + low house building = high demand and low supply.
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    As for international law, as I said in another thread, ain't no such beast.

    There are laws nations jointly agree to implement and enforce at national level, but that is international pinkie promises, we just like to call it 'law' as that sounds more reassuring.
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  9. Ebeneezer Goode

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    As for poverty levels in the UK, yeah, it's not great at the moment, and we've not a surfeit of decent politicians to do anything about it.

    My biggest hope for Brexit was it forcing some adults into politics, rather than the glorified middle management tossers we've increasingly had since the late 90s, who upon finding they no longer had a EU shaped skirt to hide behind, will have to man the fuck up and remember how to run a nation into a direction not marked 'ground'
  10. We Are Borg

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    Yes.
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    International law only applies to the southern hemisphere in practice, unfortunately.
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  13. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    ahh... here it's all tied into one payment. In Ontario, about $750 for general welfare and closer to 1300 for disability-monthly.

    Rental costs have doubled over the past decade in Toronto, and those were already double what they'd been ten years prior. We've also lost a LOT of the rent controls we once had, so there's no longer the turnover of people moving into better homes as they can afford them because they won't enjoy the same rights/protections/increase controls they may have had under previous laws.