It drink pretty good, don't it?

http://lewbryson.blogspot.com/2008/03/it-drink-pretty-good-dont-it.html

If this is a good example of the people we're dealing with, then we're never going to get those stupid alcohol laws changed.

On a related note Missouri received a nice bump in tax revenue yesterday as I loaded up on New Belgium and assorted micro brews before crossing back into Oklahoma.

Elwood! Anc!

Defend this!

If someone is drinking beer to get drunk, fuck it. Let them stick with their Budwiser and other beer flavord waters. But as someone who is a beer connoisseur, I drink it for the taste, the feel, the aroma.

I'm okay with allowing more alcohol per volume, but only if it is clearly labels. And keep in mind, grocery stores may simply stop selling it the same way most don't sell hard liqours these days.

That is something I've been wondering about. If we get the laws changed, where is the beer going to be sold? The state run liquor stores only sell liquor, grocery stores usually sell only low abv beer and wine. Will the only stores that carry it be the highly expensive private liquor stores?

It may still be worth it to go to GA.

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Our grocery stores sell higher-ABV wines and beers alongside the lower percentage stuff.

I don't have time to look it up right now, but I think the cutoff is something like 18%. After that, the store has to have a liquor license, IIRC.

Only Oklahoma liquor stores can sell higher ABV beers and wines. And they must be sold at room temperature. Which of course means no New Belgium Fat Tire and Sunshine ().

I'd love to brew someday, but our liquor laws are so damn Byzantine in this country.

If the law gets in the way of enjoying life, ignore the law. Brewing beer or wine or spirits in your basement isn't hurting anyone so fuck The Man.

And you can brew up to somewhere around 200 gallons without telling the government. Go ahead. If you want to sell it get the license and jump through the hoops.

Depending on where he lives of course. Some US counties are dry, including when it comes to homebrewing. Lawrence County, Ohio, right across the Ohio River from Huntington, West-BY-GOD-Virginia is one of those places. It's illegal to possess, manufacture, or consume alcohol there. Of course, everyone just drives to Huntington or Ashland to buy beer and booze...

That would be a ttb law which I do believe is national. So that is what i was talking about.

I see no reason why you can't have a little of both: Why can't I enjoy the taste of good beer as I am on my way to good ol' fashioned drunken binge?

I think the highest alcohol content beer brewed is the Sam Adams Triple Bock which is something like 17% alcohol. That's a bit less than most liquors and spirits. If you're drinking for drunk, just go for the MD 20/20 or buy a case of Coors.

Why would I drink beverages the taste of which I do not like, whether or not I aim to get drunk?

It costs too much to drink the good stuff to get drunk. Start with the good and then move to the cheap. Once you have had a few you can't tell the quality then. That is why beer taste testers don't drink but a small amount and then drink something else.

I'm not exactly destitute.

Yes, actually I can still tell whether I am drinking piss or not even when I am well on the way to fucked up.

This "good beer for taste, cheap beer for drunk" is akin to "good steak for taste, cheap steak to get full", which is also an argument full of FAIL!

then someone needs to become better acquainted with cheap whiskey, cheap vodka, or cheap rum.

Unless of course he hates those and doesn't mind spending his money on the good stuff.

The hell it does.

Well, 7 or 8 bucks a six pack is too steep for me on a regular basis. That is why I started brewing my own back in 94. I drink a lot of light beer during the summer when I don't want all the calories and still want a beer, but I would drink guinness or old peculier, boddington's, newcastle,etc. a lot more if I were rich.

Well, yeah. If you're drinking to get drunk and budget isn't an issue you should get drunk on whatever can get the job done that you like best.

I was, however, thinking more along the lines that typical beer simply isn't a particularly efficient way to get drunk. You can chug a few beers and reach a quick buzz to start but volume and carbonation force you to slow down. If you're drinking to get drunk and want to get to a plateau well above buzz-level as quickly as possible, you've got to go with the hard stuff. Getting severely drunk on beer is also, in my experience, more likely to leave you hung-over the next day. Even though there's more water in beer than in whiskey et al., it's easier to keep up your hydration when drinking the hard stuff because you don't have all that carbonation filling up your stomach and discouraging you from drinking enough water.

How does a room temp. law prevent you from buying Fat Tire?

Alvin Holmes. Alvin-fuckin-Holmes.

The same man, that in 2004, was pulled over by a Montgomery County Sheriff's Deputy in his private vehicle at 2330 at night, and was found to have a Blood Alcohol Level twice the legal limit for driving a vehicle. The same man who assaulted said Deputy when the Deputy placed Rep. Holmes under arrest.

The same man that later had the DUI and Assault charges thrown out simply because he claimed he was going to the Capitol Building, and Alabama legislators have immunity from the law when traveling to or from session.

Rep. Holmes argued with the deputy, became combative, and was placed under arrest. Rep. Holmes never, ever said anything about legislative immunity during the arrest process and only decided to play that card after he'd sobered up, been released on bond, and consulted his attorney. He tried to play the race card, but the Deputy was black.

Oh, and by the way, there's dashcam video and audio of the incident. Alvin Holmes sued to keep it from being released to the public, but the Montgomery County Sheriff released it to every media outlet in the state anyways, clearing his department and his deputy of any and all wrongdoing.

So, yeah, Rep. Holmes, I guess it does drink pretty good. You'd know.

Every time I think the UK is fucked up about alcohol, I remember the US is fucked up more...
'Course, neither of us is as fucked up as Scandiwegia...
I'm retiring to either Italy or Turkey. The whisky's cheaper in Turkey, but there's better wine in Italy...

It is illegal for higher alcohol beer to be shipped cold in Oklahoma. New Belgium refuses to ship warm beer. Think about it.

I've bought Fat Tire by the case from Costco and my local grocery and the beer wasn't cold.

I don't think they'd let it "warm up" and sell it that way.


'least they better not.

That's strange. I don't see why they would have a problem shipping their high ABV beer warm. People age high alcohol beers. They're not going to go bad or anything.

Plus there is that turkish revenge thing as well