It's not about being anti-refugee, it's just about wanting people to do it the proper way!

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  1. Bailey

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  2. Amaris

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    Fuck Donald Trump.
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  3. Diacanu

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    No, you have to want to big him a big old sloppy kiss, or you'll lose the election for the Dems via a bad luck forcefield.
    Oldfella and Dinner say so, and they're geniuses.

    Failing that, I guess you could be a dead piece of meat that reacts to all cruelty and nastiness with bland indifference.
    Then at least you wont offend the MAGAs.

    Just be indifferent, and quiet, and express no opinions, and betray no expression of emotions, and say nothing, and keep your head down.
    That's how you fight evil.
    That's how evil has always been beaten.

    It worked for women getting the vote, and blacks in the 60's, and gays in the 70's-80's, and....nope, it's never worked.

    Fuck Oldfella and Dinner.
    And fuck the brainwashing dipshits that wrote the shitty articles that put the ideas in their heads.
    Because they'd never think of it themselves.
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  4. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Ohhh!
    I just figured it out!
    Why the right thinks hate is bad luck.
    They hated Obama with every fiber of their being, and he got two terms!
    They think it was luck magic!
    They don't bother to consider Obama was good at his job, and their candidates sucked, and their ideas suck!

    Wow, just when I think I find the bottom to their stupidity, there's a cave-in, and I find a new bottom!
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  5. Dinner

    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    Dear dunces, the yearly cap had been reached so, of course, no additional people are allowed. Try again next year.
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  6. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    The measure was necessary because of Australia's draconian immigration policies. Asylum seekers who reach the country by boat are never settled in Australia proper. Instead, they're sent to Nauru or Papua New Guinea’s Manus Island for "offshore processing." Right now, there are about 2,000 people between the two islands, including many children. The vast majority come from Iran, Afghanistan and Iraq. Many were transported to Australia by smugglers across a treacherous sea route hundreds of miles long. (At least 1,200 people have died trying to make the trip, one study found.)

    After arrival, the migrants are thoroughly vetted; about 80 percent of those people are legitimate refugees, according to the Australian government. And most have been at a camp for more than a year, living in an immigration limbo. They are unable to leave their camps but also forbidden from settling for good.

    Despite these reports, the Australian government has remained resolutely unwilling to resettle refugees in Australia. Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull campaigned in 2013 on a vow to "stop the boats." His posters bore slogans like, "No Way: You will not make Australia home." Instead, his government looked to other countries willing to accept the refugees. And they didn't have much luck until the United States stepped in. America has already begun their own vetting on the refugees that they will resettle. Several told CNN that they had already had one round of interviews with American officials.
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    Australia still turning away refugees? Did America basically morph to adopt Aussie policy?
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  7. Shirogayne

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    The Aussie way of "managing" refugees is a disgrace, something I'm sure @Bailey would agree upon, not the least of that being he too is an immigrant.

    That other countries have been shittier for decades longer than us is no excuse for our own crapola.
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    Australia is a model for all to follow. It rewards genuine refugees who follow the law and permanently bars law breaking criminals as should be done.
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  9. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    I bet even the interviewing officer laughed.
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  11. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Administrator

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    @Tuttle is response to your now deleted post, the Australian policies on asylum seekers are disgusting, which I affirm every time the subject comes up. I don't bring up Australian politics much here because threads on it rarely get traction.
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  12. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Administrator

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    Fun fact, the main reason they started sending criminals here is because they couldn't send them to the North American colonies anymore. :async:
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    IIRC the Aussies are at the moment saddle with an idiot right wing government too.

    (not to say that, historically, the left is without fault on this issue)
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    UA- Shut up and be indifferent!!!! Shut up and be indifferent!!!! Anything less than total indifference is perrrrfoooormatiiiiive!!! AAAAHHHH!!!!!!!! :ualbert:
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  17. Bailey

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    :yes: You wanna talk about how things like private prisons and Gitmo-Lite for immigrants led to the US being where it is now? Because those are absolutely connected. :yes: Not at all different from the Patron Saint of Republicans, Ronald Reagan, saying, "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" to Americans in 2016 saying, "Build the wall!" Oh, how we laughed at all those silly Communists and authoritarians, all the while, wealthy assgaskets like a certain Aussie, were laying the groundwork for an authoritarian takeover in the US. But, hey! Our government has assorted checks and balances, so they'll protect us! Provided, of course, that the actual human beings involved in enforcing such things don't become compromised.

    I'll put it simply, so long as a billionaire is allowed to live within the borders of a particular country, that country is at risk of becoming fascist. Laugh all you want at how America has fallen, just remember that until the 1970s, Australia was at least as segregated as the US was. You remember this David Bowie video?



    It was shot not all that long after Aboriginals were first allowed in bars with whites. Oh, and, apparently, white women and men weren't allowed to drink in the same bars until the 1970s in Australia. But go on and laugh about how fucked up our country is, just the same as we laughed about how fucked up various authoritarian regimes around the world were, without realizing that we were headed down the same path as them. I mean, if you think that we're in the neighborhood of Germany in the late 1930s (not wrong), and we should be out in the streets burning shit down, what do you think that a country who is in the neighborhood of Germany in 1933 should do? Because if you're sending refugees to Gitmo-Lite, you're in the same ballpark as a certain European country in 1933. And if you don't think that Nauru is Gitmo-Lite, then all I have to say is that you have no idea of how awful private prisons are.
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  19. Bailey

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    Ok.
  20. Bailey

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    All I'll say on here, without going into details to avoid doxxing someone else's situation too much, is that a guy who is now basically my brother in law arrived in Australia on a boat as a refugee from Afghanistan in the last couple of decades.

    So yes, I am well aware of the issue.
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    the way i see it is basically humans cannot be just humans...there have to be sub-humans and in-humans. then you got whatever is infecting the white house right now.....oop's i guess i am just as guilty and the rest of the humans?!!???!!!
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    ...and then UA went back to watching unproductive Nazi brainwash.
    Because you see, children, when someone has hurt inside for a very long time, their brain breaks, and the first thing that goes is self-awareness.

    Why didn't he get mental health care? UA couldn't afford it.
    Why didn't he vote for people who would legislate free state health care?
    He was told it was an evil plot to touch his pee-pee.

    The moral of the story is: abuse is the gift that keeps on giving.
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    NO. :dendroica:
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